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Comments on: What a cow wants, what the economy needs http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2007/10/02/what-a-cow-wants-what-the-economy-needs/ The Visible Hand in Economics Tue, 02 Oct 2007 19:37:20 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2007/10/02/what-a-cow-wants-what-the-economy-needs/#comment-379 Tue, 02 Oct 2007 19:37:20 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/2007/10/02/what-a-cow-wants-what-the-economy-needs/#comment-379 Hehe, I didn’t mean to write about normative economics, it just sorta came out 😉

I do think there is scope for normative economics, I’m just not sure many economists are well placed to provide value judgements. The subject that used to provide all the value judgements for policy analysts and economists was political economy. However, us economists strung them up for being to normative (which was the point of them really).

To be clear, I think normative statements are important, as you can’t have policy without them. However, I don’t know if university economics trains you on how to make appropriate value judgements (or I might of fallen asleep during those lessons 🙂 ).

I agree that representative samples are better than no evidence, in fact they are pretty damn good evidence. However, I think the best applied economists (that is what I will call economists who make normative statements) will spend most of their time talking to industry experts and looking at surverys, and then try to extract relevant pieces of information from this information.

The economist that creates the objective model and the economist that makes normative statements about the economy should be separate people. I think it is to much to ask of one person to fulfill the normative and the positive elements of formulating policy. That is why I love the idea of team based economics!

Just to be clear, I don’t hate normative economics, I think that normative economics is very important. However, I think normative economics requires very different skills than positive economics, and when I write things like this I just want to make that distinction clear.

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By: rauparaha http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2007/10/02/what-a-cow-wants-what-the-economy-needs/#comment-378 Tue, 02 Oct 2007 11:22:05 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/2007/10/02/what-a-cow-wants-what-the-economy-needs/#comment-378 I dunno Matt. I think it might be a bit expensive to survey every cow’s preferences. What’s wrong with taking a representative sample of the population? Unless you’re trying to model an individual cow’s decision making it should be just as useful and far cheaper. It is certainly a bit better than anecdotal evidence garnered by a quick stroll down Lambton Quay.

I’m also quite impressed that you managed to turn an article about agriculture into a rebuke of economists for their sloppy normative thinking (that still gets them that tenure-track position they’re after). I think this could be the running joke of the blog: how can Matt bring everything back to an argument about the merits of normative economics 😉

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By: krsnakhandelwal http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2007/10/02/what-a-cow-wants-what-the-economy-needs/#comment-377 Tue, 02 Oct 2007 05:19:51 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/2007/10/02/what-a-cow-wants-what-the-economy-needs/#comment-377 The changes if brought about should be at a very low speed so that the other factors can get adjusted too, the conomist should learn this.

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