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Comments on: Tall tales of taxing talent http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/03/02/tall-tales-of-taxing-talent/ The Visible Hand in Economics Mon, 10 Mar 2008 09:12:40 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Vonnegut on taxation « The visible hand in economics http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/03/02/tall-tales-of-taxing-talent/#comment-1022 Mon, 10 Mar 2008 09:12:40 +0000 http://tvhe.co.nz/?p=268#comment-1022 […] on taxation 10 03 2008 In the comments for my post on taxing observable characteristics that are correlated with income, CPW asks what I think about […]

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By: CPW http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/03/02/tall-tales-of-taxing-talent/#comment-1021 Mon, 10 Mar 2008 01:38:06 +0000 http://tvhe.co.nz/?p=268#comment-1021 Sorry, meant to respond earlier. My response was tongue-in-cheek, but I think you should define exactly what is wrong with Vonnegut scenario. He’s met your equity principle: return on effort is equalized (at zero). You might say he’s met an even stronger equity principle of equal utility for all. Since your original post indicated your support for such a principle, what’s there to object to?

Perhaps you think there is a pareto superior alternative to the society Vonnegut envisages, but it is hard to guarantee that. If you had the lowest initial endowment of talent, you might prefer total equality to any alternative.

For what it’s worth, I both agree with Mankiw (the tax system doesn’t conform to any consistent set of equity principles) and you (if such an equity principle existed, it would makes sense to tax more observables than income).

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By: rauparaha http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/03/02/tall-tales-of-taxing-talent/#comment-1020 Mon, 03 Mar 2008 18:51:33 +0000 http://tvhe.co.nz/?p=268#comment-1020 I hadn’t read Harrison Bergeron, but it does paint an awfully bleak picture. Luckily that’s not what I suggested here 😉

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By: CPW http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/03/02/tall-tales-of-taxing-talent/#comment-1019 Sun, 02 Mar 2008 20:04:41 +0000 http://tvhe.co.nz/?p=268#comment-1019 Harrison Bergeron fan rauparaha ?

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By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/03/02/tall-tales-of-taxing-talent/#comment-1018 Sun, 02 Mar 2008 18:32:01 +0000 http://tvhe.co.nz/?p=268#comment-1018 “So why is it that taxing men more than women and tall people more than short people seems unfair?”

Rule of thumb I would guess.

With the women men thing there is an additional issue – choice. Although a person cannot choose their height they can (to some degree) choose their involvement in the labour market. If women on average are less involved the labour market it might be more important to ask why – after all what happens if we tax women less (given that their labour supply is more elastic) and then the household structure changes to take advantage of this tax structure? In that case we would end up chasing our own tail moving the tax around.

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By: Luca http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/03/02/tall-tales-of-taxing-talent/#comment-1017 Sun, 02 Mar 2008 12:19:10 +0000 http://tvhe.co.nz/?p=268#comment-1017 I read that paper. Honestly, their idea is not a big deal (just a clever implementation of a very old one, actually): taxing height is a form of taxation that comes as close as it gets to lump sum taxation. It is well known that lump sum taxation induces more efficiency than any other form of income taxation.
At the same time it is also well known that lump sum taxation is extremely unlikely to achieve political viability. Margaret Thatcher tried to introduce a form of lump sum taxation in the early ’80s in UK and there were serious riots in the streets. Nice posting though.

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