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Comments on: Household structure, economic units, and income splitting http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/04/28/household-structure-economic-units-and-income-splitting/ The Visible Hand in Economics Sun, 01 Mar 2009 01:30:31 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: paid blogging http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/04/28/household-structure-economic-units-and-income-splitting/#comment-17161 Sun, 01 Mar 2009 01:30:31 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=347#comment-17161 Sure doesn’t seem very sensible to me. Shouldn’t we being do what’s best for the tax payer? Good post.

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By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/04/28/household-structure-economic-units-and-income-splitting/#comment-1305 Fri, 02 May 2008 00:43:05 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=347#comment-1305 “presumeably if you think the supply side is important than individuals are the relevant economic unit since they supply labor (mum and dad do, kids don’t which I guess makes them pretty useless economic units here!), where as when you look at the demand side you have consumption coming from the entire household and thus you might argue that it is the household.”

That was a really good summary of the issue, I completely agree 🙂

Ultimately, I am falling on the individual side because of the structural changes we are experiencing with what constitutes “a household”.

Furthermore, if we want to promote household structure, or pay them for externalities associated with forming that sort of social structure it seems more efficient to do it directly, rather than mess around with the structure of taxes.

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By: agnitio http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/04/28/household-structure-economic-units-and-income-splitting/#comment-1304 Fri, 02 May 2008 00:36:39 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=347#comment-1304 interesting point, I wonder if the side people take on that is related to whether they a predominantly supply side or demand side economists (if such things exist anymore!)

presumeably if you think the supply side is important than individuals are the relevant economic unit since they supply labor (mum and dad do, kids don’t which I guess makes them pretty useless economic units here!), where as when you look at the demand side you have consumption coming from the entire household and thus you might argue that it is the household.

interesting stuff, not really sure where I stand on the issue.

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By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/04/28/household-structure-economic-units-and-income-splitting/#comment-1303 Thu, 01 May 2008 02:08:46 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=347#comment-1303 “Silly idea as it effectively penalizes singles.”

I’m not a fan of the income splitting idea either – the economists I know seem torn though.

Ultimately, the debate between economists is about whether we view the household (however we define it 😛 ) or the individual as the economic unit.

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By: dracotb http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/04/28/household-structure-economic-units-and-income-splitting/#comment-1302 Thu, 01 May 2008 02:01:07 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=347#comment-1302

I wonder if since it’s united future policy it doesn’t apply to same sex couples?

I wonder how much he would support the idea if there was 1 high earner and 6 wifes/husbands involved 😀

Silly idea as it effectively penalizes singles.

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By: Financial transaction taxes and New Zealand « The visible hand in economics http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/04/28/household-structure-economic-units-and-income-splitting/#comment-1301 Tue, 29 Apr 2008 02:52:20 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=347#comment-1301 […] and seems to lack an understanding of some forms of social value, NZ first are racists, United support income splitting and are overly conservative, the Family/Kiwi/Pacific parties are all religious, Legalise, Maori, […]

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By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/04/28/household-structure-economic-units-and-income-splitting/#comment-1300 Mon, 28 Apr 2008 22:53:00 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=347#comment-1300 “I wonder if since it’s united future policy it doesn’t apply to same sex couples?”

The “future” element has gone now – I think that United is still conservative, but they probably won’t exclude same sex couples now.

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By: agnitio http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/04/28/household-structure-economic-units-and-income-splitting/#comment-1299 Mon, 28 Apr 2008 22:42:50 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=347#comment-1299 well I wasn’t at all surprsed to see that it was Peter Dunne’s policy. This policy defintiely fits in with Puter Dunne’s idea of the ideal family unit.

Nice quote from Patrick Nolan, I hear he’s a smart guy;)

I wonder if since it’s united future policy it doesn’t apply to same sex couples?

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By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/04/28/household-structure-economic-units-and-income-splitting/#comment-1298 Mon, 28 Apr 2008 19:44:16 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=347#comment-1298 Wow you guys all seem to agree that income splitting is silly – I thought I was being contentious with this post. Shows what I know 😛

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By: Will de Cleene http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/04/28/household-structure-economic-units-and-income-splitting/#comment-1297 Mon, 28 Apr 2008 11:20:14 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=347#comment-1297 Income splitting is best left to divorce lawyers.

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