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Comments on: June 08 OCR review and MPS http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/06/05/june-08-ocr-review-and-mps/ The Visible Hand in Economics Sun, 21 Dec 2008 14:00:41 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Sentencing and Reduction in Crime | Crime Weblog http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/06/05/june-08-ocr-review-and-mps/#comment-5226 Sun, 21 Dec 2008 14:00:41 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=407#comment-5226 […] June 08 OCR review and MPS | TVHE […]

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By: What’s behind the 50-point cut? « The visible hand in economics http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/06/05/june-08-ocr-review-and-mps/#comment-1532 Thu, 11 Sep 2008 02:02:25 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=407#comment-1532 […] not right – as I don’t believe their forecasts (I had the same problem with the forecasts in June a lot of the reasoning is the same as […]

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By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/06/05/june-08-ocr-review-and-mps/#comment-1531 Fri, 06 Jun 2008 00:55:06 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=407#comment-1531 Danged link, here it is:

http://www.westpac.co.nz/olcontent/olcontent.nsf/content/FM_Bulletin_200
80605/$FILE/RBNZ_MPS_Review.pdf

“I think we’re in for a hell of a correction.”

We are in for a large correction – but obviously the income is still there even in the RBNZ’s case, they just have people increasing their savings markedly. What’s driving that?

Furthermore, the terms of trade reversal they have just seems over-cooked (given that it stems from a reduction in export prices) – you take that out and the picture would improve significantly.

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By: Will de Cleene http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/06/05/june-08-ocr-review-and-mps/#comment-1530 Thu, 05 Jun 2008 07:04:48 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=407#comment-1530 Link’s gone, Matt. I see what you’re saying, but my source takes this into account. I’ll confirm with them on that figure tomorrow, and can be more specific but off the record (if that makes sense!)

Moles in other sectors of Wellington give the impression of a Wile E Coyote treading air over the canyon. I think we’re in for a hell of a correction.

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By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/06/05/june-08-ocr-review-and-mps/#comment-1529 Thu, 05 Jun 2008 03:50:33 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=407#comment-1529 I think Westpac have hit the nail on the head with this:

http://www.westpac.co.nz/olcontent/olcontent.nsf/content/FM_Bulletin_20080605/$FILE/RBNZ_MPS_Review.pdf

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By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/06/05/june-08-ocr-review-and-mps/#comment-1528 Thu, 05 Jun 2008 02:14:38 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=407#comment-1528 “I’ve heard 7 percent unemployment by early ‘09 mentioned by people in the business.”

One thing to remember with that is that business’s are probably looking at the level of employment rather than the unemployment rate. Strangely enough there is a significant difference.

Businesses may feel that we have a situation where employment levels need to fall. No even if this is the case at an aggregate level, the most likely places there will be reductions in employment are through part-time earners.

As many part-time earners are students or secondary earners they often do not become unemployed when they lose their job, they “leave the labour force”. If this is the case we would expect a decrease in the participation rate to pick up a significant amount of the decrease in employment.

An unemployment rate of 7% will also come with a significant (e.g. 5 percentage point) decline in the participation rate – suggesting that there would be a much more significant decline in employment.

As a result, I find even the 6% level unrealistic.

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By: Will de Cleene http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/06/05/june-08-ocr-review-and-mps/#comment-1527 Thu, 05 Jun 2008 02:04:30 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=407#comment-1527 I’ve heard 7 percent unemployment by early ’09 mentioned by people in the business.

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By: CPW http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/06/05/june-08-ocr-review-and-mps/#comment-1526 Thu, 05 Jun 2008 00:19:09 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=407#comment-1526 I thought the RB’s claim that they “still expect inflation to return comfortably inside the target band over the medium term” [emphasis added] was a joke.

I would note though that the Bank’s interpretation of their mandate now is just “aiming to have projected inflation comfortably within the target range over the latter half of our three-year projection period” (p7 of today’s MPS). So effectively, if it’s back under three some time in the distant future they’re OK.

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By: Eric Crampton http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/06/05/june-08-ocr-review-and-mps/#comment-1525 Wed, 04 Jun 2008 22:35:35 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=407#comment-1525 I just played a bit in Excel. If you centre around the current quarter and take their inflation expectations, then project 2.6% forever after March 11, guess how many quarters it takes before you’ve got an average of 3%? 37 quarters. On average, over the medium term of 37 quarters, we hit below 3%.

Just download their Jun08 excel sheet, then plug in a new column that’s nothing but if statements on averages:
=if(average(E52:E74)<3,23,if(average(E51:E75)<3,25,…..)
Centred around current quarter: the medium term is 37 quarters if we define the medium term as being that period of time necessary for inflation to be within the 1-3% band.

The largest prior window was 13 quarters back in September-December 2005.

If this is not grounds for immediate dismissal of the Reserve Bank Governor, then the whole thing is a complete crock. To paraphrase DeLong, Impeach Bollard. Impeach Bollard Now.

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By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/06/05/june-08-ocr-review-and-mps/#comment-1524 Wed, 04 Jun 2008 22:20:54 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=407#comment-1524 “The medium term gets longer all the time. 5 quarters, 8 quarters, whatever.”

Agreed – I can’t see annual price increase settling below 3% over the next five years given this sort of Reserve Bank action. Did someone say policy failure?

“We don’t really need to worry much though. There’s no literature whatsoever suggesting that central bank credibility is important. Any reports to the contrary are just ideological burps coming out of strange macroeconomists and can be ignored.”

🙂

Don’t forget what the RBNZ said just today – “inflation expectations are anchored” 😀

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