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Comments on: Government in perspective: What is the “other”? http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/07/29/governments-in-perspective-what-is-the-other/ The Visible Hand in Economics Mon, 28 Jul 2008 23:40:54 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Bryan Spondre http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/07/29/governments-in-perspective-what-is-the-other/#comment-1874 Mon, 28 Jul 2008 23:40:54 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=368#comment-1874 Lance Wiggs has an interesting piece on migration.

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By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/07/29/governments-in-perspective-what-is-the-other/#comment-1873 Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:39:46 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=368#comment-1873 “This is most likely (IMHO) because either culturally or genetically, individuals don’t care about distant strangers.”

Agreed – however, I want people to explicitly realise that they are placing a low weight on foreigners, rather than ignoring the fact that in any international prisoners dilemma games they are asking our government to screw other people over.

People often don’t realise how selfish they are.

BTW, love the externalities argument – as that is the reason I think that people often value each other in the first place 😛

“As to your other question, remember there are costs as well as benefits to more centralized governments.”

Indeed, I agree with you. However, it is interesting to ponder. If we are happy to have a government running a nation why aren’t we happy to have a government running the world?

You raise some good points to answer that, but I think it would be an interesting issue to discuss further.

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By: CPW http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/07/29/governments-in-perspective-what-is-the-other/#comment-1872 Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:26:13 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=368#comment-1872 I think it is self-evident that nations do put a minuscule weight on the welfare of non-citizens. This is most likely (IMHO) because either culturally or genetically, individuals don’t care about distant strangers. However, if you’d prefer a more PC explanation, then either a) there are greater externalities to having poor people within your local society; or b) inefficiencies make the marginal value of transfers to other nations very low (think African corruption), and it’s rational to make small ones.

As to your other question, remember there are costs as well as benefits to more centralized governments. The global governance institutions we have already our abject failures. Why would we want more? And isn’t the coase theorem enough at a governmental level? At a practical level the voting system is always going to be a sticking point between the rich nations and the poor, populous nations.

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