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Comments on: September 2008 MPS and OCR decision http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/09/11/september-mps-decision/ The Visible Hand in Economics Thu, 11 Sep 2008 02:57:49 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/09/11/september-mps-decision/#comment-2432 Thu, 11 Sep 2008 02:57:49 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=1100#comment-2432 “Matt – are you saying Bollard is above any political decision-making? Iโ€™m not saying itโ€™s necessarily happening, but how can you conclusively write it off as a possibility?”

Blind faith in other economists – I’m an idealist ๐Ÿ˜€

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By: goonix http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/09/11/september-mps-decision/#comment-2431 Thu, 11 Sep 2008 02:56:37 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=1100#comment-2431 Matt – are you saying Bollard is above any political decision-making? I’m not saying it’s necessarily happening, but how can you conclusively write it off as a possibility?

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By: What’s behind the 50-point cut? « The visible hand in economics http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/09/11/september-mps-decision/#comment-2429 Thu, 11 Sep 2008 02:03:51 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=1100#comment-2429 […] Dr Crampton’s call is starting to make a lot of sense – no matter how uncomfortable I am admitting it […]

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By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/09/11/september-mps-decision/#comment-2433 Thu, 11 Sep 2008 01:46:29 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=1100#comment-2433 Yikes – like you said, maybe they should just be honest and admit that they aren’t targeting 1-3% ๐Ÿ˜€

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By: Eric Crampton http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/09/11/september-mps-decision/#comment-2435 Wed, 10 Sep 2008 23:58:52 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=1100#comment-2435 If you want really depressing, center around the Sept-09 quarter and you get a medium term of 49 quarters.

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By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/09/11/september-mps-decision/#comment-2428 Wed, 10 Sep 2008 23:51:02 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=1100#comment-2428 “then the medium term is now 41 quarters”

A touch longer than the BOE 8 quarter long term ๐Ÿ˜€

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By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/09/11/september-mps-decision/#comment-2427 Wed, 10 Sep 2008 23:50:17 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=1100#comment-2427 “RBNZ seemingly reversing some of the stances taken previously”

Same stance as June – however, they believe that lending costs will not fall as much as the OCR, as you state here:

“Will the major banks lower their mortgage rates, in Australia the banks have been somewhat reluctant to bring the rates down by the extent of RBA cuts.”

I doubt all the cuts will appear in mortgage rates – the one to watch will be the floating rate, that will tell us how much the Bank’s are currently able to pass on.

“Just what jawboning has been going on behind closed doors between Cullen and Bollard.”

“The decision definitely appears political. A sad day for NZ if this is indeed the case.”

I severely doubt it. I think it has more to do with the fact that Dr Bollards mandate is fuzzy, so he places a fairly high weight on short-term growth – to the determinant of the economy in the long-run.

There forecasts are a bit negative as well – three years of falling employment levels! What the hell. Of course, they said all this stuff last time so its not as surprising (although still weird):

http://tvhe.wordpress.com/2008/06/05/june-08-ocr-review-and-mps/

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By: Eric Crampton http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/09/11/september-mps-decision/#comment-2426 Wed, 10 Sep 2008 23:47:48 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=1100#comment-2426 I’ve thrown the revised inflation numbers into my “calculate the length of the medium term” excel spreadsheet. I use a functional definition of the medium term: over how many quarters must we average in order for inflation outcomes to be below 3%. If we center on the September 2008 quarter, use the RBNZ forecast going forward (and assuming the Sept 2011 quarter rate of 3% continues forever after that), and realized outcomes prior, then the medium term is now 41 quarters: more than a decade.

I’m sticking by “Impeach Alan Bollard, Impeach Him Now.”

On the plus side, I got to lecture on Monday about political business cycles; gave them the nice example from the Nixon tapes of Nixon pushing Burns to keep interest rates down in the leadup to the election. Looking more and more like we’ve got a domestic case going on right now.

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By: goonix http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/09/11/september-mps-decision/#comment-2436 Wed, 10 Sep 2008 23:05:19 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=1100#comment-2436 The decision definitely appears political. A sad day for NZ if this is indeed the case.

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By: adamsmith1922 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/09/11/september-mps-decision/#comment-2434 Wed, 10 Sep 2008 22:49:34 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=1100#comment-2434 Have just heard the news. On first blush it seems concerning. Am I mistaken, but is the RBNZ seemingly reversing some of the stances taken previously.

Will the major banks lower their mortgage rates, in Australia the banks have been somewhat reluctant to bring the rates down by the extent of RBA cuts.

One assumes that Kiwibank will lower it’s rates in line with the wishes of the regime.

Just what jawboning has been going on behind closed doors between Cullen and Bollard.

This close to an election this is very good for Labour, in the short term, longer term not so sure.

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