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Comments on: PSA: Just more misleading statistics http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/09/23/psa-just-more-misleading-statistics/ The Visible Hand in Economics Wed, 24 Sep 2008 02:37:40 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: MikeE http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/09/23/psa-just-more-misleading-statistics/#comment-2522 Wed, 24 Sep 2008 02:37:40 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=1259#comment-2522 “Since you have been thoroughly dressed down for this comment on the standard, care to retract it here?”

Nope, It still stands.

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By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/09/23/psa-just-more-misleading-statistics/#comment-2521 Tue, 23 Sep 2008 19:58:56 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=1259#comment-2521 “Derived demand for econ lecturers…where do analysts (decent ones, anyway) come from?”

I suppose it may increase the supply of economics lecturers slightly – however, given the difference in skills between the private and public sector, it may also lead to an increase in demand for economics degrees – which will increase demand for your services and drive up your wage!

“Since you have been thoroughly dressed down for this comment on the standard, care to retract it here?”

From what I could see the people at the Standard only said the same thing we have here – namely that it isn’t directly funded by the taxpayer. However, MikeE’s point that the PSA has a intrinsic incentive to back parties that will increase government spending does hold.

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By: sam http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/09/23/psa-just-more-misleading-statistics/#comment-2529 Tue, 23 Sep 2008 06:30:25 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=1259#comment-2529 “MikeE
Also funny that they are aruging the line that the PSA isn’t taxpayer funded. Sure it doesn’t recieve direct funding from the government, but how are 100% of its members funded?”

Since you have been thoroughly dressed down for this comment on the standard, care to retract it here?

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By: Eric Crampton http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/09/23/psa-just-more-misleading-statistics/#comment-2528 Tue, 23 Sep 2008 05:16:24 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=1259#comment-2528 Derived demand for econ lecturers…where do analysts (decent ones, anyway) come from?

I kid though.

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By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/09/23/psa-just-more-misleading-statistics/#comment-2527 Tue, 23 Sep 2008 05:08:05 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=1259#comment-2527 “That would imply that their labour input is substitutable for yours, something I highly doubt!”

Just because their marginal product is currently zero I have no doubt some of these people could make fine macro-economists – it isn’t that hard after all 😛

Furthermore, there marginal product is negative not because their individual production is negative – no that is probably positive. it is the negative impact a worker has on the marginal product of other workers that makes the marginal product negative.

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By: agnitio http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/09/23/psa-just-more-misleading-statistics/#comment-2526 Tue, 23 Sep 2008 04:57:11 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=1259#comment-2526 It would have me more worried – an influx of policy analysts onto the Wellington labour market would definitely put downward pressure on my wage 😛

That would imply that their labour input is substitutable for yours, something I highly doubt!

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By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/09/23/psa-just-more-misleading-statistics/#comment-2525 Tue, 23 Sep 2008 04:49:23 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=1259#comment-2525 “Also funny that they are aruging the line that the PSA isn’t taxpayer funded. Sure it doesn’t recieve direct funding from the government, but how are 100% of its members funded?”

I guess it depends on how you want to view its intention. It isn’t directly tax payer funded, so you can’t say “our funds are being wasted on it”.

However, the PSA definitely has an incentive to maximise government spending.

“Jeez, the way you have it painted had me more scared rather than less!”

Really? From what I hear there are some government departments where the marginal product of a new employee is negative – if anything I thought that removing those analysts would not provide any trade-off (except in terms of the welfare of the analyst I guess 🙂 ).

It would have me more worried – an influx of policy analysts onto the Wellington labour market would definitely put downward pressure on my wage 😛

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By: Eric Crampton http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/09/23/psa-just-more-misleading-statistics/#comment-2524 Tue, 23 Sep 2008 04:44:04 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=1259#comment-2524 Jeez, the way you have it painted had me more scared rather than less!

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By: MikeE http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/09/23/psa-just-more-misleading-statistics/#comment-2523 Tue, 23 Sep 2008 04:35:37 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=1259#comment-2523 Also funny that they are aruging the line that the PSA isn’t taxpayer funded. Sure it doesn’t recieve direct funding from the government, but how are 100% of its members funded?

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