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Comments on: Opinion on National’s tax policy http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/10/08/opinion-on-nationals-tax-policy/ The Visible Hand in Economics Thu, 09 Oct 2008 00:50:57 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/10/08/opinion-on-nationals-tax-policy/#comment-2695 Thu, 09 Oct 2008 00:50:57 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=1438#comment-2695 “Its not a matter of changing the rates, just the bands. If each of the bands changes with inflation, then the total tax take would also change with inflation.”

Yes

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By: Steve http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/10/08/opinion-on-nationals-tax-policy/#comment-2694 Thu, 09 Oct 2008 00:21:00 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=1438#comment-2694 Its not a matter of changing the rates, just the bands. If each of the bands changes with inflation, then the total tax take would also change with inflation.

The problem at the moment is inflation increases wages by 4%, and prices by 4% (so in theory no worse off) but tax increases by 9-10% because some people move into higher tax bands.

I’m not sure of the exact numbers. the example I have seen modelled previously was 3% inflation was increasing the tax take by 8% per year (ignoring any growth etc), without any increase in tax rate;

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By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/10/08/opinion-on-nationals-tax-policy/#comment-2693 Wed, 08 Oct 2008 20:58:20 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=1438#comment-2693 “Maybe the promise of doing this every three years would add some certaintly, remove some potential cost and get the correct inflation adjusted rate…albeit every three years.”

Indeed, the adjustment I was thinking was a little less frequent than every quarter 🙂

I was thinking every 1-3 years, depending on the compliance costs of adjustment.

The main fact is that, if it is legislated, then parties can’t pretend they are cutting taxes when they are actually leaving the tax burden unchanged. As a result, the debate would have to focus on the optimal structure of taxes to raise funds for a given level of government spending – which should be the primary issue when discussing tax policy methinks

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By: Mike Osborne http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/10/08/opinion-on-nationals-tax-policy/#comment-2692 Wed, 08 Oct 2008 20:38:49 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=1438#comment-2692 “I am also disappointed that they leave the tax bands fixed – when inflation adjustment of the tax thresholds is the only way to ensure that the real tax burden isn’t rising over time.”

Presumably this would involve IRD changing the tax rates periodically (quarterly or annually say ) to adjust for the effects of inflation. This is not a simple task and involves reprinting all the guidance documents, reprogramming tax algorithms, businesses changing their payroll tax rates etc. The job of getting this done at short notice for the latest Labour tax cuts was pretty substantial (and therefore costly to the taxpayer).

Maybe the promise of doing this every three years would add some certaintly, remove some potential cost and get the correct inflation adjusted rate…albeit every three years.

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By: Initial blogoshere reactions to National’s policy statement « The Inquiring Mind http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/10/08/opinion-on-nationals-tax-policy/#comment-2691 Wed, 08 Oct 2008 03:41:38 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=1438#comment-2691 […] Visible Hand in Economics – Opinion on National’s Tax Policy […]

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By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/10/08/opinion-on-nationals-tax-policy/#comment-2690 Wed, 08 Oct 2008 01:09:12 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=1438#comment-2690 “Of course, there is another party that offers a flatter, more efficient, tax system. 😉 ”

True – and they are saying that they will leave real spending unchanged, implying that they have some concept of balancing budgets.

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By: goonix http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/10/08/opinion-on-nationals-tax-policy/#comment-2689 Wed, 08 Oct 2008 00:51:19 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=1438#comment-2689 Yeah it’s slightly disappointing, but still better than the alternative from Labour.

Of course, there is another party that offers a flatter, more efficient, tax system. 😉

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