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Comments on: Comic: NZ deposit insurance for finance companies http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/10/15/comic-nz-deposit-insurance-for-finance-companies/ The Visible Hand in Economics Tue, 14 Oct 2008 22:40:18 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/10/15/comic-nz-deposit-insurance-for-finance-companies/#comment-2848 Tue, 14 Oct 2008 22:40:18 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=1554#comment-2848 “Did they do it on purpose?

The poison pill budget and now this steaming pile?”

I see now that they are doing “a just before the election” budget – but not telling anyone how much their promises will cost. If Labour wins, how can they claim to have any mandate given there refusal to actually give voters accurate information.

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By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/10/15/comic-nz-deposit-insurance-for-finance-companies/#comment-2847 Tue, 14 Oct 2008 22:38:37 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=1554#comment-2847 Hi Adam and Dismal,

Ultimately, it is apparent that there is some type of problem in the credit markets – ergo why countries are recapitalising banks and offering insurance, both of which help to steady the ship and dampen any existing information asymmetries in the marketplace.

Neither of these policies look like they would provide moral hazard, as they are not bailing out the people who took on undue risk when taking out the loans.

However, when the bank guarantees deposits, if only for 2 years it, it creates a moral hazard problem.

Say that we are scared the credit market will fail, so we say we will guarantee deposits for 2-3 years for all institutions. The risk taking institutions will use this guarantee to load up on risky, high return assets, knowing that in 2-3 years time the same government that bailed them out would be worried about getting rid of the guarantee if it would lead to the same problem.

Such guarantees, if preformed in a blanket way over the entire credit market, don’t do anything to help the market move towards equilibrium.

Personally, I think recapitalise banks and offer insurance at a rate that represents the risk inherent in the institutions balance sheet. Also use the additional information the RBNZ receives through this insurance process to help the market function more efficiently. The losses that the market has to face from the fact that expectations are out of whack with reality will HAVE to happen – we are only trying to avoid overshooting this point.

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By: Kimble http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/10/15/comic-nz-deposit-insurance-for-finance-companies/#comment-2846 Tue, 14 Oct 2008 22:37:54 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=1554#comment-2846 Did they do it on purpose?

The poison pill budget and now this steaming pile?

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By: Dismal Soyanz http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/10/15/comic-nz-deposit-insurance-for-finance-companies/#comment-2845 Tue, 14 Oct 2008 22:26:06 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=1554#comment-2845 Moral hazard?

We are talking about banks here.

But seriously, just as competitive pressures ar partly responsible for the rush to extend credit to obviously high-risk borrowers in the subprime collapse the rush to “shore up” the banks and the shadow financial system was done because … er well, K Rudd was doing it (and Gordon “not Gecko” Brown and the the folks with the funny accents a bit further east).

The hope is that two years will be long enough for the interbank markets to resume normal operations. But then, if two years isn’t enough, moral hazard is gonna be the least of our problems.

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By: adamsmith1922 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/10/15/comic-nz-deposit-insurance-for-finance-companies/#comment-2844 Tue, 14 Oct 2008 21:09:35 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=1554#comment-2844 Matt

I commented here in similar vein

http://adamsmith.wordpress.com/2008/10/14/8274/

The NZ scheme seems to have a number of problems. As I construe the scheme at present just about all forms of investment including Kiwisaver are going to be covered after an announcement yesterday.

No account seems to be taken of moral hazard.

The banks, essentially Australian, are in effect being charged fees to cover the excesses of small and in a number of cases poorly run and regulated NZ institutions.

This is not right. Furthermore, I suspect that the consequences in terms of attitudes towards NZ down the line will not be positive.

Having agreed to cover Kiwisaver and the finance companies what is the exit strategy? Is there an exit strategy?

Is the policy being driven by the RBNZ, the Treasury or politicians or a camle comprised of all three. At present they do not appear to be making a very good job of it at all.

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By: Finance - Comic: NZ deposit insurance for finance companies http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/10/15/comic-nz-deposit-insurance-for-finance-companies/#comment-2843 Tue, 14 Oct 2008 20:48:06 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=1554#comment-2843 […] Read more:  Comic: NZ deposit insurance for finance companies […]

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By: Insurance Blog » Comic: NZ deposit insurance for finance companies http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/10/15/comic-nz-deposit-insurance-for-finance-companies/#comment-2842 Tue, 14 Oct 2008 19:54:22 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=1554#comment-2842 […] the rest of this great post here […]

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