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Comments on: Growth and resources: Cleaning up a fallacy http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/10/17/growth-and-resources-cleaning-up-a-fallacy/ The Visible Hand in Economics Sun, 04 Jan 2009 19:31:13 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Technology as king? | TVHE http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/10/17/growth-and-resources-cleaning-up-a-fallacy/#comment-7453 Sun, 04 Jan 2009 19:31:13 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=1577#comment-7453 […] to a large degree, economists agree with this idea (here, and here).  Technological progress increases the usability and availability of resources, expanding choice […]

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By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/10/17/growth-and-resources-cleaning-up-a-fallacy/#comment-2917 Sat, 18 Oct 2008 00:07:26 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=1577#comment-2917 “Take that back!”

What do I need to take back now? Constant returns to scale or the Don Juan business 🙂

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By: Kimble http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/10/17/growth-and-resources-cleaning-up-a-fallacy/#comment-2916 Sat, 18 Oct 2008 00:04:59 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=1577#comment-2916 Take that back!

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By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/10/17/growth-and-resources-cleaning-up-a-fallacy/#comment-2915 Fri, 17 Oct 2008 07:33:44 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=1577#comment-2915 “Um, diminishing returns?”

Thankyou. If no-one had made that argument by tomorrow I was going to make it myself 😛 As a result, I have my response all nice and prepared 🙂

Now, diminishing returns to a specific input is a common – even essential assumption in economics. However, we are not discussing individual inputs persee we are discussing aggregate production.

A single input not only impacts on the production of a good, it also changes the productivity of other inputs. Generally, the major inputs described my economics are complements – insofar as the increase in one input increases the marginal product of other inputs.

As a result, we can have a diminishing marginal product but constant or increasing returns to “scale” – which discusses what happens when we increase all inputs by the same amount.

It is commonly believed that countries at least have constant returns to scale (which would imply the same result as Frog Blog if we ignored any role for technology), however in many cases it is believed that countries face increasing returns to scale – because of the interaction between inputs.

As a result, the assumption of diminishing returns does not lead to a Frog Blog type result – we need to describe the impact of a change in “scale” as that is where our growth is essentially assumed to come from.

When I wrote the post I did not discuss scale – which implies that I implicitly assumed a constant returns to scale environment – which is in itself consistent with what frog blog was saying. However, that leaves us with technology – a factor I believe they have “again” underplayed.

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By: rainman http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/10/17/growth-and-resources-cleaning-up-a-fallacy/#comment-2914 Fri, 17 Oct 2008 06:53:48 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=1577#comment-2914 Um, diminishing returns?

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By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/10/17/growth-and-resources-cleaning-up-a-fallacy/#comment-2913 Fri, 17 Oct 2008 03:38:34 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=1577#comment-2913 “I’m scared.”

Scared of what – why are comments on Friday afternoon so short?

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By: goonix http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/10/17/growth-and-resources-cleaning-up-a-fallacy/#comment-2912 Fri, 17 Oct 2008 03:36:57 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=1577#comment-2912 I’m scared.

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By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/10/17/growth-and-resources-cleaning-up-a-fallacy/#comment-2911 Fri, 17 Oct 2008 03:04:08 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=1577#comment-2911 “Take that back!”

Why. Being an economist is like being a lover – it is something we all have inside of us. We just need an economics Don Juan to bring it out 😉

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By: Kimble http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/10/17/growth-and-resources-cleaning-up-a-fallacy/#comment-2910 Fri, 17 Oct 2008 02:59:55 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=1577#comment-2910 “Guys, everyone is an economist – they just don’t know it yet ”

Take that back!

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By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/10/17/growth-and-resources-cleaning-up-a-fallacy/#comment-2909 Fri, 17 Oct 2008 02:41:42 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=1577#comment-2909 “No wonder people (i.e non-economists:P) always get shitty with me…..”

“They’re not real people agnitio.”

Guys, everyone is an economist – they just don’t know it yet 😉

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