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Comments on: Aborting crime http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/11/28/aborting-crime/ The Visible Hand in Economics Fri, 28 Nov 2008 05:55:33 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/11/28/aborting-crime/#comment-3721 Fri, 28 Nov 2008 05:55:33 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=2156#comment-3721 “The second part of this where it gives examples of Levitt’s behavior is particularly interesting”

Sounds like time to pull out the Samuelson quote 😉

]]> By: agnitio http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/11/28/aborting-crime/#comment-3720 Fri, 28 Nov 2008 05:43:52 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=2156#comment-3720 The second part of this where it gives examples of Levitt’s behavior is particularly interesting

http://johnrlott.tripod.com/RevisedLevittComplaint.pdf

]]> By: rauparaha http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/11/28/aborting-crime/#comment-3716 Fri, 28 Nov 2008 03:55:01 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=2156#comment-3716 Levitt, in Freakonomics, said that Lott’s work hadn’t been replicated by others. He also said in correspondence with another academic that Lott’s work was rubbish and he’d paid to get it published. Lott sued him for defamation and the case still isn’t entirely over. I believe relations between them and their supporters have been less than cordial.

]]> By: agnitio http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/11/28/aborting-crime/#comment-3715 Fri, 28 Nov 2008 03:46:53 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=2156#comment-3715 Can you provide some commentary on the “huge lawsuit and fracas” for an uninformed reader like myself?

]]> By: rauparaha http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/11/28/aborting-crime/#comment-3717 Fri, 28 Nov 2008 03:28:39 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=2156#comment-3717 Ah, of course, how could I forget Lott’s paper after the huge lawsuit and fracas that followed it!? Thanks for picking that up.

]]> By: Owld Grumbleton http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/11/28/aborting-crime/#comment-3719 Fri, 28 Nov 2008 01:38:52 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=2156#comment-3719 I seem to recall that Levitt also wrote that longer jail sentences played a part – at first – by removing recidivist criminals from society. But the subsequent loss of “viable” men means young women in the same socio/ethnic groups have reduced choices, and many of those men who do remain have lost the ethic of personal responsibility, leading to greater numbers of single mothers, creating a new cycle of deprived children and higher crime rates. Many of these young women also seem to not have the sense to use contraception or abortion. The sad reality is that the people who would get the greatest benefit from abortion are the ones least likely to avail themselves of it.

]]> By: Dismal Soyanz http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/11/28/aborting-crime/#comment-3718 Fri, 28 Nov 2008 01:34:48 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=2156#comment-3718 FYI, the Lott and Whitley paper has been around since 2001, just in case you think the 2007 paper breaks new ground.

]]> By: Paul Walker http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/11/28/aborting-crime/#comment-3713 Fri, 28 Nov 2008 00:12:43 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=2156#comment-3713 John Lott has work that shows that abortion increases crime. See p.117-127 of his book “Freedomnomics” for a readable intro to his argument.

For the economists among us, see John Lott and John Whitley “Abortion and Crime: Unwanted Children and Out-of-Wedlock Births”, Economic Inquiry, April 2007, v. 45, iss. 2, pp. 304-24.

]]> By: goonix http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/11/28/aborting-crime/#comment-3712 Fri, 28 Nov 2008 00:01:05 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=2156#comment-3712 There are certainly some ‘interesting’ characters on there. I was thinking about posting over there my classification of the four broad groups of people that post there: libertarians, god cheerleading squad, the conspiracy theorist nutters (incorporating those still living in some bizarre cold war fantasy land) and the ‘lefty’/’liberal’ trolls.

]]> By: Paul Williams http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/11/28/aborting-crime/#comment-3714 Thu, 27 Nov 2008 23:48:32 +0000 http://tvhe.wordpress.com/?p=2156#comment-3714

I was surprised to see reasonable-sounding commentators at Kiwiblog

I’m sorry, the what-sounding commentators?

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