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Comments on: The temporary redundancy package http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/12/15/the-temporary-redundancy-package/ The Visible Hand in Economics Thu, 18 Dec 2008 19:26:28 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/12/15/the-temporary-redundancy-package/#comment-4752 Thu, 18 Dec 2008 19:26:28 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=2439#comment-4752 “I hope that the people who are in change know what their doing better than us.”

Maybe, or maybe not. I’m sure after the crisis lots of people will tell us what could have been done better 😛

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By: Jane Beauty tips http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/12/15/the-temporary-redundancy-package/#comment-4571 Thu, 18 Dec 2008 00:41:28 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=2439#comment-4571 You have a point, but when you think about it, there is no perfect solution for the situation. In fact, no one was able to come up with a decent method for getting rid of this crisis. So, I think that we should go along with the flow and see where it takes us. I hope that the people who are in change know what their doing better than us.

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By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/12/15/the-temporary-redundancy-package/#comment-4402 Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:20:06 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=2439#comment-4402 Very true Tono,

However, some would argue that the level of benefits is supposed to be uncomfortably low in order to prevent welfare dependence. During a recession there is genuine involuntary unemployment, which is why we want to treat it differently.

Now, this isn’t how I feel – hence why I am against the policy. Furthermore, I agree that if the benefit is to low it should simply be higher, instead of having ad hoc adjustments like this policy.

But it is important to recognise that the government’s point of view (and a point of view of much of society) stems from the belief that there is a “choice” to not work – and that this choice is something society “doesn’t want to reward”. These must be their beliefs even if they are not will to state it 😉

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By: Tono & the Finance Company http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/12/15/the-temporary-redundancy-package/#comment-4399 Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:49:34 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=2439#comment-4399 Yep sure, It would be unfair of me to just blame National. I think it’s more a reflection of mainstream attitudes to a welfare dependent ‘other’, And these attitudes are what National and Labour must work with to get votes.

I feel that benefits are unlikely to rise in real terms because it is always an election issue to attack the people on them. I can’t remember an election where National hasn’t promised to ‘get tough’ on beneficiaries – along with tax cuts it’s kind of a default policy.

Because people on welfare make a up a small section of the vote, and one that is unlikely to turn up on voting day, Labour is hardly going to promise to ‘get soft’ in response (they leave that to the Greens).

Beneficiaries are an easy scapegoat because unlike farmers, workers, businesses or almost any other group – beneficiaries don’t have an organised voice to tell their side. It is easy for middle class voters to get upset with people on welfare because they have little real contact with them and their problems. There’s an asymmetry of information you might say.

The unemployment benefit was created so that people would have a safety net if they lost their jobs. I agree that if benefits are too low to live on, we should raise them, and by creating this package, the new government seems to be saying that benefits ARE too low to live on.

But this policy says to me that the new government doesn’t mind leaving an underprivileged family on the current benefit, they just wouldn’t expect a middle class family to do the same.

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By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/12/15/the-temporary-redundancy-package/#comment-4383 Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:52:42 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=2439#comment-4383 Not happy with it aye – if benefits are truly too low we should increase them. I’m not too keen to place it down to certain political parties. For example, I could ask the question why Labour didn’t lift benefit levels to a “comfortable” level during their nine years in power?

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By: Tono & the Finance Company http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2008/12/15/the-temporary-redundancy-package/#comment-4363 Tue, 16 Dec 2008 10:42:21 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=2439#comment-4363 The last National government set benefits to a level where they were extremely uncomfortable to live on. But they didn’t mind, because they didn’t foresee National party voters ever having to live on them.

It seems to me that this redundancy package is a brilliant fix – it tops up the benefit to roughly the pre-Bolger government levels, but only for those educated and skilled enough to have had a long-term job to lose in the recession. Those who for whatever reason haven’t been able to get or keep a job in the good times get to stay on the poverty line.

So now we have one dole for the underclass, and another for the normal, ‘mainstream’ New Zealanders.

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