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Comments on: Is the US overestimating its “potential”? http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/01/12/is-the-us-overestimating-its-potential/ The Visible Hand in Economics Sun, 18 Jan 2009 08:10:45 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Getting Your Financial Ducks in a Row » Blog Archive » the Madoff … http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/01/12/is-the-us-overestimating-its-potential/#comment-10366 Sun, 18 Jan 2009 08:10:45 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=2594#comment-10366 […] Is the US overestimating its “potential”? | TVHE […]

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By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/01/12/is-the-us-overestimating-its-potential/#comment-9527 Tue, 13 Jan 2009 00:12:16 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=2594#comment-9527 “The measurement of inflation by using rental inflation rather than the actual increase of home values definitely has contributed to a screw in the data and its representation”

Huh? The CPI index measures the cost of goods and services. The increase in “implied rental” is the service associated with a house. Inflation measures aren’t supposed to track changes in asset prices (which are related to expectations about the future). Including asset price inflation would make the CPI a less useful statistic – at least for what we actually use it for.

“Hence investers are confused, thinking they are seeing skewed sector markets when in fact they are seeing one market constellation weaken and another strengthen”

I suppose the question would be here – what market is not becoming relatively more productive?

“The lack of credit has sharply reduced potential output in the global economy. The trend output must be lower. Companies are struggling to get credit for simple things like Letters of Credit. I do not have statistics to hand but that must have an impact.”

Completely agree – this is how I have felt for a while. Although some recent data seems to indicate that, for New Zealand at least, a growing output gap is becoming important.

In hindsight what has happened will be obvious – but without real time data things are a pain!!

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By: Phil sage (sagenz) http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/01/12/is-the-us-overestimating-its-potential/#comment-9469 Mon, 12 Jan 2009 16:22:13 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=2594#comment-9469 The lack of credit has sharply reduced potential output in the global economy. The trend output must be lower. Companies are struggling to get credit for simple things like Letters of Credit. I do not have statistics to hand but that must have an impact.

in better news http://ftalphaville.ft.com/blog/2009/01/12/51016/are-things-really-that-bad-in-china/

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By: MattYoung http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/01/12/is-the-us-overestimating-its-potential/#comment-9389 Mon, 12 Jan 2009 08:38:52 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=2594#comment-9389 Or underestimating its potential.

It could be the case that a much more efficient set of market structures are emerging, but barely distinguishable by the banks. Hence investers are confused, thinking they are seeing skewed sector markets when in fact they are seeing one market constellation weaken and another strengthen.

In this case, the total perceived volatility would be greater than the separate volatilities of each equilibria alone, and the whole market structure would be underpriced.

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By: housam jarrar http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/01/12/is-the-us-overestimating-its-potential/#comment-9323 Mon, 12 Jan 2009 04:23:00 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=2594#comment-9323 I do beg to differ with your analysis that inflation expectations have not been under-estimated.The measurement of inflation by using rental inflation rather than the actual increase of home values definitely has contributed to a screw in the data and its representation.For an average joe like myself seeing home values move into the territory of unaffordable along with the doubling many times over of energy prices over the past 8 years should have moved inflation into a much higher bracket and yet it did not.The way inflation has been calculated seems to indicate to me that it does not reflect the reality on the ground and therefore should have alerted the feds to the possibility of deflation down the road which is the rut we are currently facing.Interestingly,if you adjust GDP to a more realistic inflation measure it would not be a shocker to realize negative GDP has been around allot longer than only the past quarter.

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