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Comments on: Borrowing, expectations, and potential output http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/01/14/borrowing-expectations-and-potential-output/ The Visible Hand in Economics Wed, 14 Jan 2009 03:16:02 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/01/14/borrowing-expectations-and-potential-output/#comment-9776 Wed, 14 Jan 2009 03:16:02 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=2620#comment-9776 “I’m not convinced. You don’t really have any evidence that the output projections are wrong. Unemployment is rising sharply and inflation is falling.”

I don’t expect you to be convinced – I’m just stating a point of view 😉

Unemployment is rising sharply true, and that is a concern – as it suggests that the labour market isn’t clearing.

On the inflation side this is cooling – but not to the degree you would expect with the GIANT output gap that is being suggested.

Furthermore, of course I believe a situation exists where government should come in and just try to stimulate activity. If the output gap is that massive – then there is a ton of spare capacity that the government could use cheaply, and private industry is scared to use. But, is that the case?

“What’s the worst-case scenario for implementing a fiscal stimulus now really?”

The fact that it misallocates resources reducing social welfare – the goal of policy is to maximise social welfare overtime isn’t it, not GDP in the next quarter …

Just because output is falling doesn’t mean the government needs to do something – that is not the default position. If output is falling we need to identify why, and whether government can actually help in the situation. Doing this requires a lot of faith in potential output forecasts – forecasts I don’t believe.

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By: CPW http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/01/14/borrowing-expectations-and-potential-output/#comment-9770 Wed, 14 Jan 2009 03:07:33 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=2620#comment-9770 I’m not convinced. You don’t really have any evidence that the output projections are wrong. Unemployment is rising sharply and inflation is falling. If you don’t think this is obviously a situation with insufficient aggregate demand, I suspect you don’t believe such a situation ever exists.

The best econometric evidence seems to suggest that you get a more than 1 for 1 bang out of fiscal stimulus. What’s the worst-case scenario for implementing a fiscal stimulus now really? Inflation would be a boon in the current environment.

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By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/01/14/borrowing-expectations-and-potential-output/#comment-9733 Tue, 13 Jan 2009 23:49:08 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=2620#comment-9733 “Conclusion? Read more Matt Nolan, he has gotten this thing right.”

I wouldn’t call that the conclusion – if you had listened to the advice on my blog you probably would have lost some money over the past year 🙁

However, I find the paradox of thrift story just a bit fishy – I think it misses the point of what is the “appropriate” counter-factual. Of course, I could easily be completely wrong again 😉

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By: MattYoung http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/01/14/borrowing-expectations-and-potential-output/#comment-9728 Tue, 13 Jan 2009 23:00:41 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=2620#comment-9728 Conclusion? Read more Matt Nolan, he has gotten this thing right.

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