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Comments on: Arnold Kling on the economics profession http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/01/26/arnold-kling-on-the-economics-profession/ The Visible Hand in Economics Tue, 03 Feb 2009 17:02:49 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Nutone Metro Deluxe Surface Mount Medicine Cabinet | Shower Curtains http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/01/26/arnold-kling-on-the-economics-profession/#comment-12661 Tue, 03 Feb 2009 17:02:49 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=2703#comment-12661 […] Arnold Kling on the economics profession | TVHE […]

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By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/01/26/arnold-kling-on-the-economics-profession/#comment-11226 Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:06:06 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=2703#comment-11226 All good Greg, I don’t like it when people use straw men arguments against people either.

I would also note that I do not have the intellect or ego of Keynes, so you are unlikely to find anything either as intelligent or as critical on this blog 😛

Also I don’t think I was anti-stimulus enough in the post – I should have said large stimulus instead of stimulus. I will change that now 🙂

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By: Greg Ransom http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/01/26/arnold-kling-on-the-economics-profession/#comment-11121 Mon, 26 Jan 2009 04:41:21 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=2703#comment-11121 Sorry Matt.

Keynes misrepresented his peers in this way, and it’s a consistent theme in the literature, and I even ran into it in an exchange this week with another economist. For many, this “straw man” it taken as a fact of the matter about non-Keynesian economics.

Keynes represents himself as the rival to “full employment” economics — which no-body every suggested was anything but a first-step theoretical construction for understanding the ordered structure of the economy. But in the hands of Keynes and many since, the dishonest canard has been current that this construction wasn’t a construction, but represented the “faith” of the model constructor in “the market as perfectly self-correcting.”

Keynes represented this non-existent “extreme” as the _norm_ among his peers, and many, many economists since have mistakenly taken Keynes’ word for it.

I note that you are not one of them.

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By: Greg Ransom http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/01/26/arnold-kling-on-the-economics-profession/#comment-11119 Mon, 26 Jan 2009 04:39:05 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=2703#comment-11119 Sorry Matt.

Keynes misrepresented his peers in this way, and it’s a consistent theme in the literature, and I even ran into it in an exchange this week with another economist. For many, this “straw man” it taken as a fact of the matter about non-Keynesian economics.

Keynes represents himself as the rival to “full employment” economics — which no-body every suggested was anything but a first-step theoretical construction for understanding the ordered structure of the economy. But in the hands of Keynes and many since, the dishonest canard has been current that this construction wasn’t a construction, but represented the “faith” of the model constructor in “the market as perfectly self-correcting.”

Keynes represented this non-existent “extreme” as the _norm_ among his peers, and many, many economists since have mistakenly taken Keynes’ word for it.

I note that you are not one of them.

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By: 3 Ways to Find the Perfect College | Metro Universities Resource http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/01/26/arnold-kling-on-the-economics-profession/#comment-11112 Mon, 26 Jan 2009 03:43:34 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=2703#comment-11112 […] Arnold Kling on the economics profession | TVHE […]

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By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/01/26/arnold-kling-on-the-economics-profession/#comment-11097 Mon, 26 Jan 2009 01:54:43 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=2703#comment-11097 “Straw man alert!”

Since I was naming the two EXTREMES of course they are “straw men”. Notice that I didn’t even put anyone in that camp, I just named the extreme point that could occur.

My point wasn’t to say that these extremes were wrong – just that the extremes differ in terms of value judgments, and that these judgments that are sometimes not put out in the open for everyone to look at.

If I had said all of X believe that the market is perfectly correcting and that is “silly” you could pull me up for an oversimplistic straw man argument – but I don’t think that is the case here 🙂

BTW its Matt not Mark 🙂

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By: Greg Ransom http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/01/26/arnold-kling-on-the-economics-profession/#comment-11095 Mon, 26 Jan 2009 01:47:20 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=2703#comment-11095 Straw man alert!

Mark wrote:

“those selling the market as perfectly self-correcting.”

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