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Comments on: Earth Hour http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/03/30/earth-hour/ The Visible Hand in Economics Mon, 30 Mar 2009 22:37:11 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Eric Crampton http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/03/30/earth-hour/#comment-18567 Mon, 30 Mar 2009 22:37:11 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=3430#comment-18567 Last year, I admit having enjoyed the “giving the finger” jollies, though the result was observationally equivalent to actually trying to minimize footprint given knowledge of how electricity generation works and given the need to build a new power box. I’ve been trying to purge my utility function of expressive arguments though and so worked to abstain this year either way…just carried on as normal and played a bit of Wii.

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By: rauparaha http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/03/30/earth-hour/#comment-18565 Mon, 30 Mar 2009 21:46:22 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=3430#comment-18565 @Eric Crampton
Haha, that’s true. If you do just enjoy having lots of lights on then I guess there’s no better time to do it, if you know what you know about electricity generation.

You’re probably right about the warm fuzzies that greenies get from feeling righteous. On the other hand, I think Edison Hour types just got their jollies from giving the finger to all the greenies. If you can justify your consumption as minimising your footprint then I hardly think you’ll be invited to Edison Hour parties 😉

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By: Eric Crampton http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/03/30/earth-hour/#comment-18563 Mon, 30 Mar 2009 21:29:13 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=3430#comment-18563 I’d always thought that, if I wasn’t right, I was at least acute. Now I have rauparaha calling me obtuse. And possibly crazy. I’ll turn it around on him. Suppose you have some big project using electricity that you want to do. Like building a new box for your power board. You know that baseload is usually hydroelectric in the South Island, and that at times of peak demand coal and gas get ramped up. If you want to minimize footprint, should you plan your consumption for a time when you’re pretty sure there’s a downwards spike in demand, or when you can’t tell whether you’ll be inducing coal or gas to ramp up a bit?

And you call yourself an environmentalist. Bah.

Or, think of it this way. A good chunk of the warm and fuzzy feelings that many environmentalists get from Earth Hour is in feeling better than all those jerks who don’t turn their lights off. I’m consequently providing a service to y’all: someone compared to whom you can feel superior if that’s how ya get your jollies. Enjoy!

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By: StephenR http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/03/30/earth-hour/#comment-18553 Mon, 30 Mar 2009 07:14:59 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=3430#comment-18553 Odd that some people refuse to believe that ‘greenies’ could exist outside of electricity-less communes that survive by trading mud bricks for mung beans.

Good point about the attention Earth Hour drew – reminds me of when Bob Geldoff came to NZ to talk about aid, all the attacks on him really did get the issue out there 😀

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