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Comments on: Consumer prices – not asset prices http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/04/08/consumer-prices-not-asset-prices/ The Visible Hand in Economics Mon, 04 May 2009 06:23:58 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Forex Trading http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/04/08/consumer-prices-not-asset-prices/#comment-19453 Mon, 04 May 2009 06:23:58 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=3542#comment-19453 Great information, I will be linking back to you and going to look around at your other posts.

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By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/04/08/consumer-prices-not-asset-prices/#comment-18934 Sun, 12 Apr 2009 21:03:57 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=3542#comment-18934 “But when asked about inflation expectations, are people only responding to consumer goods and services and ignoring real estate?”

Indeed – inflation expectations themselves are a pretty biased measure as well. It isn’t clear exactly what prices each individual is thinking about when answering the question.

That is why I prefer to look at the trend in quality adjusted wage growth – as this gives us some idea of what pay rise firms and employees are willing to give independent of productivity. Over time this pay increase will be real inflation expectations.

However, I don’t know where that cheeky data sits in the US – as people always say real wage growth has been weak my suspicion is that it would have run along with measured inflation (or possibly even weaker …)

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By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/04/08/consumer-prices-not-asset-prices/#comment-18933 Sun, 12 Apr 2009 21:01:06 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=3542#comment-18933 “So does that mean you shouldn’t count CPI as part of the house price deflation as well? I’ve always had a problem with that as in my mind, without wage inflation, CPI is making houses MORE unaffordable, not less.”

CPI is still useful for giving us an idea of the relative price of an asset – as the ultimate goal of the asset it to create a stream of revenue for consumption.

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By: John http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/04/08/consumer-prices-not-asset-prices/#comment-18916 Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:20:22 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=3542#comment-18916 “As we can see, inflation expectations weren’t as high as the “inflation” that was complained about in the article.  As a result, I do not believe that underlying inflation (which is near on impossible to measure ) was that high either.  Fundamentally, people were making decision based on a belief that inflation was close to where the Fed believed it was – not where an index including house prices would say it is.”

But when asked about inflation expectations, are people only responding to consumer goods and services and ignoring real estate?
As in:

“The rising house prices were a concern as household’s confused them for real wealth – and spent accordingly.  As a result, household’s consumed at an unsustainable level.  Now that they have realised that they want to, and need to, pull back.”

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By: mrg http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/04/08/consumer-prices-not-asset-prices/#comment-18845 Tue, 07 Apr 2009 19:09:36 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=3542#comment-18845 So does that mean you shouldn’t count CPI as part of the house price deflation as well? I’ve always had a problem with that as in my mind, without wage inflation, CPI is making houses MORE unaffordable, not less.

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By: All Guide to Making Money » Blog Archive » Consumer prices - not asset prices http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/04/08/consumer-prices-not-asset-prices/#comment-18841 Tue, 07 Apr 2009 13:43:37 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=3542#comment-18841 […] the rest here:  Consumer prices – not asset prices […]

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