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Comments on: Fat taxes revisited http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/04/27/fat-taxes-revisited/ The Visible Hand in Economics Mon, 04 May 2009 02:07:13 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: ben http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/04/27/fat-taxes-revisited/#comment-19448 Mon, 04 May 2009 02:07:13 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=3693#comment-19448 I withdraw my earlier comment disparaging Eric O’s idea. Fact is, airline price is so fantastically complex in a competitive industry that I have absolutely no idea what is or is not a good pricing policy. Maybe Eric O’s idea would be a winner if tried.

Re: Eric C:

Of course, I’m appalled by measures banning airlines from experimenting with these kinds of policies. It’s funny how the same sorts of folks who want to ruin our lives with fat taxes on food scream with horror at the thought of airlines applying the same policy but more efficiently: charging for the result rather than for an input weakly correlated with the result.

Agreed re: appalled. And an interesting observation: its ok, apparently, to encourage good eating habits or force them outright, but to levy taxes based on outcomes based on those past behaviours is somehow unethical. I (genuinely) don’t understand the merit of this view, either on efficiency or ethical grounds. Perhaps someone can explain.

This is almost the opposite of M Friedman’s advice, which was to judge a policy by its effects and not its intent. That, too, is a trap of politicians, and in particular I suspect, of the Left.

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By: Eric Crampton http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/04/27/fat-taxes-revisited/#comment-19446 Mon, 04 May 2009 01:30:51 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=3693#comment-19446 I would be surprised if many airlines found the transactions costs of running the scheme were lower than the aggregate increase in willingness to pay from folks like me who’d be willing to pay for a guarantee that my seat will be free from encroachment by the obese.

Prior to becoming kidded, I’d also have paid more for a flight guaranteed free of babies. Just not enough more to induce any airline to offer such a service.

Of course, I’m appalled by measures banning airlines from experimenting with these kinds of policies. It’s funny how the same sorts of folks who want to ruin our lives with fat taxes on food scream with horror at the thought of airlines applying the same policy but more efficiently: charging for the result rather than for an input weakly correlated with the result.

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By: ben http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/04/27/fat-taxes-revisited/#comment-19445 Sun, 03 May 2009 23:41:18 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=3693#comment-19445 @Eric Olthwaite

Well there’s a way to annoy all your larger customers and the friends and family of them. Good luck competing with that business model.

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By: Eric Olthwaite http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/04/27/fat-taxes-revisited/#comment-19437 Sat, 02 May 2009 22:48:08 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=3693#comment-19437 I’ve always liked the idea that each passenger has, say 100kg of weight included in the price of the ticket. You can use this however you wish. If you are 80kg then you have 20kg left for luggage weight before you start paying for the extra fuel that the aircraft must use for example.

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By: Liposuction Procedure You Should know how | Cosmetic Plastic Guide http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/04/27/fat-taxes-revisited/#comment-19379 Wed, 29 Apr 2009 02:15:37 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=3693#comment-19379 […] TVHE » Fat taxes revisited […]

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By: Mexico Televisa To Post Flat 1Q Net As Taxes, Forex Weigh - Wall Street Journal http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/04/27/fat-taxes-revisited/#comment-19362 Tue, 28 Apr 2009 01:54:32 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=3693#comment-19362 […] TVHE » Fat taxes revisited […]

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By: rauparaha http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/04/27/fat-taxes-revisited/#comment-19361 Mon, 27 Apr 2009 21:16:29 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=3693#comment-19361 Regarding business class and first class, they exist to price discriminate between consumers with different elasticities of demand. Unless overweight people have a lower elasticity of demand for luxury air travel than slender people, I don’t think lumping the overweight with the wealthy is an optimal strategy.

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By: Grant http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/04/27/fat-taxes-revisited/#comment-19360 Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:55:29 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=3693#comment-19360 I agree with FreneticMon, airlines already do this with various classes of seat. If they want to force people to sit in these seats they need to introduce, for health and safety reasons, size and weight limits for seats. To me, this raises 2 immediate issues firstly, how to ensure that people report the right body size when buying tickets and secondly, how will the “normal” size passenger who buys a premium class ticket react to being grouped with the obviously horrible fat people?

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By: Proposition 1A - Arnold You Sold Us Out, Bastard - CorrputPoliticians.org http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/04/27/fat-taxes-revisited/#comment-19357 Mon, 27 Apr 2009 13:34:04 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=3693#comment-19357 […] TVHE » Fat taxes revisited […]

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By: Mike@pvl http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/04/27/fat-taxes-revisited/#comment-19356 Mon, 27 Apr 2009 13:07:16 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=3693#comment-19356 yeah, when this story broke a few days ago here there were a lot of people calling into CNN saying “make the seats wider”. except that would mean less seats per plane. lower supply of seats + assume similar demand = higher price per seat. except now for everyone. so my skinny butt has to subsidize someone else’s?

nope, i’m sorry, but no, hop on a treadmill and have a salad. i mean look, i have to pay more if i pack an extra bag. but someone can carry that bag’s worth of weight onto the plane in their left cheek and pay no extra?

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