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Comments on: David Bain’s guilt isn’t important http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/06/12/david-bains-guilt-isnt-important/ The Visible Hand in Economics Sat, 04 Jul 2009 18:03:15 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Utah Saints Something Good ‘08 : Download OUT NOW!! | Running workout information http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/06/12/david-bains-guilt-isnt-important/#comment-20218 Sat, 04 Jul 2009 18:03:15 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=3949#comment-20218 […] TVHE » David Bain's guilt isn't important […]

]]> By: Parkour and FreeRunning | Running workout information http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/06/12/david-bains-guilt-isnt-important/#comment-20171 Sat, 27 Jun 2009 10:08:09 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=3949#comment-20171 […] TVHE » David Bain's guilt isn't important […]

]]> By: Deanna http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/06/12/david-bains-guilt-isnt-important/#comment-20134 Mon, 22 Jun 2009 21:50:52 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=3949#comment-20134 Perhaps one day members of your family and possibly yourself could be murdered rauparaha – to quote yourself – will it matter? no – depending on the calibre of the jury you and your family would have a 50 percent chance of getting justice.

]]> By: Dick http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/06/12/david-bains-guilt-isnt-important/#comment-20116 Mon, 15 Jun 2009 11:28:43 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=3949#comment-20116 Sorry I meant to say he had bosted he could get away with sexual assualt.

]]> By: Dick http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/06/12/david-bains-guilt-isnt-important/#comment-20114 Mon, 15 Jun 2009 10:17:04 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=3949#comment-20114 June 11, 2009 -Startling new evidence is revealed that was ruled to be to prejudical and was admissable. The evidence revealed suggests Daivd had been intimidating the family with the rifle used in the killing’s and that he had bosted about getting away with sexual assualt by using his paper run as an alibi. Also the entire 111 call is realeased and digitally enhanced with David thought to have said “I shot the Prick”.

In 2007 the Privy council ruled that a miscarriage of justice had taken place on the grounds the Jury had not heard all the evidence and were entitled to do so.
They ordered a retrial and subseqently again the Jury did not get hear all the evidece, which would suggest again there has been a miscarriage of justice.

What does this now mean ??? Is it time for a retrail.

]]> By: rauparaha http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/06/12/david-bains-guilt-isnt-important/#comment-20108 Mon, 15 Jun 2009 01:19:42 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=3949#comment-20108 @steve
Good point, Steve, that should definitely be in there. Although, as you point out, it makes more of a difference for premeditated offences since there isn’t much of a deterrent effect for crimes of passion.

]]> By: steve http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/06/12/david-bains-guilt-isnt-important/#comment-20107 Mon, 15 Jun 2009 00:43:02 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=3949#comment-20107 one thing you have missed is the moral hazard from finding the accused not guilty. If it appears easy enough to create reasonable doubt, then there is the additional cost to society of increased crime. Although Bain’s had 13 years of jail already this is prob enough of a deterent (not necessarily overall but lets assume), but this case is precedent for future murder trials whereby they just have to make it possible that it was a murder suicide and get away with it. the additional cost of increased murders must be included in the CBA of finding not guilty, and the additional benefit of decreased murders must be included in the CBA of finding guilty.

Prob more important for crimes that aren’t crimes of passion like murder, (I assume the deterent of getting caught is relatively low for murder b/c it is not considered at the time of the crime), but crimes such as fraud (where the cost of getting caught is prob considered over a longer period). None the less the moral hazard costs and benefits should be included.

]]> By: John http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/06/12/david-bains-guilt-isnt-important/#comment-20104 Sun, 14 Jun 2009 20:31:05 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=3949#comment-20104 Nothing about DB but what about these luxury cars going for bargain prices?

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]]> By: rauparaha http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/06/12/david-bains-guilt-isnt-important/#comment-20085 Sat, 13 Jun 2009 00:16:14 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=3949#comment-20085 @ben
Please try to be civil.

@DT
Given that what an avid news follower sees is an editorialised narrative rather than the actual trial as presented by the two sides, I don’t think objectivity is enough to reach a conclusion.

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