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Comments on: Quick thought … http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/06/26/quick-thought/ The Visible Hand in Economics Wed, 08 Jul 2009 12:03:53 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: lowongan kerja http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/06/26/quick-thought/#comment-20275 Wed, 08 Jul 2009 12:03:53 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=3989#comment-20275 hmmm….probably…you must tell them about your thinking

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By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/06/26/quick-thought/#comment-20176 Mon, 29 Jun 2009 04:26:03 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=3989#comment-20176 @Staf.

Well neither side IS an example of the conjunction fallacy – but in that post there are lesson for adherents of either extreme position.

The conjunction fallacy does exist – something that should hit the strictest adherents of traditional neo-classical logic.

But the private institutional setting and elements of standard decision making account for a lot of what goes on when the fallacy is observed. Namely, once there is actually a cost to making a decision our agents become closer to the “standard rational” view. This implies that any policy based on a strict belief that behavioural errors are being made would tend to overestimate the degree of error – and as a result will “over-regulate”.

As a result, the conjunction fallacy provides us with a case which illustrates that the most extreme versions of the neo-classical economist and the behavioural economist are inappropriate. And as a result, it shows us that it is appropriate to try and keep both sides in mind, and find a suitable middle ground.

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By: Staf. http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/06/26/quick-thought/#comment-20175 Mon, 29 Jun 2009 04:16:59 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=3989#comment-20175 I do not see how both sides are examples of the conjuction fallacy.

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By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/06/26/quick-thought/#comment-20174 Mon, 29 Jun 2009 02:09:46 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=3989#comment-20174 @rauparaha

You are an economist – all your comments should be ambiguous and cryptic 🙂

We are the fortune tellers of our time my friend 😉

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By: rauparaha http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/06/26/quick-thought/#comment-20173 Sun, 28 Jun 2009 21:40:00 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=3989#comment-20173 If only all my comments were so ambiguous and cryptics 😉

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By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/06/26/quick-thought/#comment-20169 Fri, 26 Jun 2009 05:01:28 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=3989#comment-20169 @goonix

Definitely, but he was also inherently criticising me propogating those extreme positions – as I might be implying that they have more relevance then they deserve. As a result, I felt I should explain why I did that.

I avoided putting forward the main reason why – which was that I had no time to do a substantive post, but wanted to hit something down to put down my “feelings” associated with recent discussions on behaviour economics.

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By: goonix http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/06/26/quick-thought/#comment-20168 Fri, 26 Jun 2009 04:57:55 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=3989#comment-20168 If I was interpreting rauparaha’s comment I would say he was criticising the extreme positions taken by those on either side (i.e. a whopping generalisation that everyone is rational or everyone is not rational).

I could be wrong however!

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By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/06/26/quick-thought/#comment-20166 Fri, 26 Jun 2009 02:06:29 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=3989#comment-20166 @rauparaha

If I don’t stereotype things how am I supposed to make wild general statements about what they should do.

I was just sitting around reading things when I noticed there were two extreme responses to the above paper being thrown around:

1) Behavioural economics is stupid,
2) Neo-classical economics is stupid.

I thought if they could attack stereotypes then the best thing for me to do would be to attack the stereotypes back simultaneously.

Personally I think that there is only one discipline here, choice theory. Instead of cleanly recognising this we have individuals are just using these stereotypes to cloak their own value judgments regarding choice. I hoped that by attacking both sides I could convince myself of this – and I did.

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By: rauparaha http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/06/26/quick-thought/#comment-20165 Fri, 26 Jun 2009 01:58:52 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=3989#comment-20165 Go the whopping generalisations. Gotta love ’em 🙂

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By: goonix http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/06/26/quick-thought/#comment-20164 Fri, 26 Jun 2009 00:58:53 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=3989#comment-20164 You tell em Matt.

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