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Comments on: Why monetary policy to target asset prices wouldn’t work http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/07/15/why-monetary-policy-to-target-asset-prices-would-work/ The Visible Hand in Economics Sun, 19 Jul 2009 14:02:22 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Brahman http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/07/15/why-monetary-policy-to-target-asset-prices-would-work/#comment-20417 Sun, 19 Jul 2009 14:02:22 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=4030#comment-20417 The relative price ration for assets and goods isn’t the big issue. One needs to measure real household expediture.

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By: Micheal http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/07/15/why-monetary-policy-to-target-asset-prices-would-work/#comment-20405 Fri, 17 Jul 2009 05:39:19 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=4030#comment-20405 The CPI is clearly inadequate in this type of environment. In fact one could argue the construction of the CPI, as opposed to a Cost of Living Index, can lead policymakers to make flawed assumptions about the level of general inflation in the economy.

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By: Cargo Trailers http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/07/15/why-monetary-policy-to-target-asset-prices-would-work/#comment-20398 Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:04:41 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=4030#comment-20398 Monetary policy rests on the relationship between the rates of interest in an economy, that is the price at which money can be borrowed, and the total supply of money.

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By: Reverse mortgage Specialist http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/07/15/why-monetary-policy-to-target-asset-prices-would-work/#comment-20392 Thu, 16 Jul 2009 06:31:24 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=4030#comment-20392 Hi,

I also feel that the problems lies in our approach for having increased assets pricing and it is indeed hooks up. The relative price ration for assets and goods is also significant. It needs to be settled down….targeting asset pricing is going to be an issue!

– j.

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By: John http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/07/15/why-monetary-policy-to-target-asset-prices-would-work/#comment-20388 Wed, 15 Jul 2009 22:09:25 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=4030#comment-20388 I don’t think the struggling people at the bottom see the piece of land they own or aspire to own the same way as the mobile upper layer.

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By: John http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/07/15/why-monetary-policy-to-target-asset-prices-would-work/#comment-20387 Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:54:29 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=4030#comment-20387 “Effectively, by saying that they will control asset prices (and being credible) they convince people that current house prices are at a fundamentally sound level.”

but the main thing is what people see. Only a minority understand the economic theory.

“And in any case, (the relative price of) everything else … seems to be falling … so the only safe investment seems to be in houses. If we don’t get into the housing market now, our savings will keep on depreciating, and we never will be able to afford to buy a house.””

other person says:
“and Britain’s overcrowded, Harcourts have an office in Shanghai and places like Australia and the US are magnets for migrants.. and there’s cities in China bigger than London that no one has ever heard of… (and the businessmen in NZ have a freehand on the migration spigot) so prices will keep going up.”

Yet another
“yeah John Banks says that Auckland will get a population increase equal to Wellington in the next 14 years!”.

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By: Raf http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/07/15/why-monetary-policy-to-target-asset-prices-would-work/#comment-20377 Wed, 15 Jul 2009 09:21:12 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=4030#comment-20377 Miguel,

Just noted your 16.13 comment. I guess we are in complete agreement!

The CPI is a load of old cobblers.

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By: Miguel Sanchez http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/07/15/why-monetary-policy-to-target-asset-prices-would-work/#comment-20373 Wed, 15 Jul 2009 04:27:48 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=4030#comment-20373 “I have the data somewhere but from memory M3 + House prices are highly correlated at double digit rates whereas the CPI has averaged something like 2.5% pa.”

Hardly surprising when the RBNZ responds to one and not the other?

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By: Raf http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/07/15/why-monetary-policy-to-target-asset-prices-would-work/#comment-20371 Wed, 15 Jul 2009 04:13:46 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=4030#comment-20371 But when asset price inflation starts to drive the economy then we have a big problem.

The CPI is clearly inadequate in this type of environment. In fact one could argue the construction of the CPI, as opposed to a Cost of Living Index, can lead policymakers to make flawed assumptions about the level of general inflation in the economy.

A Cost Of Living Index which actually measured real household expenditure (mortgage/rent, energy, food and so on) would be more helpful.

It’s worth looking at the data over the last 20 years on House Prices, M3 growth and the CPI.

I have the data somewhere but from memory M3 + House prices are highly correlated at double digit rates whereas the CPI has averaged something like 2.5% pa.

Parallel universes? Let’s face it the last 20 years of deregulated debt has given us a debt economy……nothing more, nothing less.

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By: Miguel Sanchez http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/07/15/why-monetary-policy-to-target-asset-prices-would-work/#comment-20370 Wed, 15 Jul 2009 04:13:07 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=4030#comment-20370 “But CPI includes the consumption price of housing” – does it? There’s no imputed rent for home ownership in the New Zealand CPI, as there is in the US.

Just to be clear, I’m not a fan of targeting asset prices (with the emphasis on ‘targeting’) – they’re a relative price, and the central bank has no business trying to manipulate relative prices. But I think they do need to take asset prices into consideration, because the CPI, while convenient, is an incomplete measure of inflation. That way, we won’t have to put up with central banks telling is that double-digit money supply growth isn’t inflationary, just because it’s not showing up in goods prices.

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