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Comments on: NZ/Aussie Optimum currency area http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/08/20/nzaussie-optimum-currency-area/ The Visible Hand in Economics Tue, 08 Sep 2009 19:50:47 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Recommendation For Auto Insurance In Los Angeles Area? | InsuranceAholic http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/08/20/nzaussie-optimum-currency-area/#comment-21393 Tue, 08 Sep 2009 19:50:47 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=4302#comment-21393 […] TVHE » NZ/Aussie Optimum banking area […]

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By: Rhino http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/08/20/nzaussie-optimum-currency-area/#comment-21261 Mon, 24 Aug 2009 00:31:58 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=4302#comment-21261 Though Aus is our biggest trading partner from memory they are only 30% of our exports. Which is relatively low compared to other currency unions.
That is always worth remembering.
All these discussions though is irrelevant as there is no substantial reason for Aus to join in on a currency as they dont get anything out of it really.

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By: Nolan on commun currency | Kiwiblog http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/08/20/nzaussie-optimum-currency-area/#comment-21258 Sun, 23 Aug 2009 22:52:29 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=4302#comment-21258 […] Nolan at TVHE looks at the pros and cons of a common currency with Australia. […]

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By: Andrew Coleman http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/08/20/nzaussie-optimum-currency-area/#comment-21250 Sat, 22 Aug 2009 20:05:26 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=4302#comment-21250 There are at least two difficulties with the type of empirical evidence you suggest, Matt. The first is conceptual: If NZ were to join a currency union, the structure of the economy would be different than if it did not. If NZ used the Australian dollar, NZ would almost certainly trade more with Australia, meaning the economic cycles would be more synchronised; NZ would probably have a different inflation dynamic because wages would adjust differently to inflation; NZ might well have a different monetary transmission mechanism. On the latter, for example, NZ’s monetary transmission is different because far more NZers use short term fixed rate mortgages than Australians, leading to additional lags in the transmission process; in turn this is a response to the steeply inverted yield curve that is often seen in NZ but not elsewhere in the world. Asking whether NZ’s past history of interest rates would have been better for NZ than Australia’s past history of interest rates presupposing NZ’s historical economic structure will obviously bias you towards saying NZ interest rates were more appropriate. Sure; but if NZ had been in a currency union, and had a different economic structure than that which we had, Australia’s may have been more appropriate. For instance, Australian can probably get away with smaller changes in interest rates than NZ because the transmission of monetary policy is much quicker, and hence any interest rate change is more effective. If we had a joined a currency union, Dr Bollard may not have needed to raise rates to 8.25% in late 2007/ early 2008, because a smaller number might have done the job (as it did in Australia.) Similar, it might not have been necessary to cut interest rates so low in 2009, because smaller cuts may have been sufficient if we had evolved a transmission mechanism like Australia’s.

For this reason, one needs to ask a different set of empirical questions. Were NZ’s overall outcomes from having monetary independence demonstrably better than other countries? Did monetary policy help cope with exogenous shocks? Was the pattern of shocks different (better/worse) because we had separate monetary policy? I fail to see the evidence on the first. Over the last decade, compared to Australia, we have had higher interest rates on average, similar but on average higher exchange rate fluctuations, inflation that has only been 0.2- 0.3% worse (although bad enough) and no clear pattern that monetary policy has helped us avoid house price cycles or recessions. The interest rate question is vexed, but it seems silly to ignore the fact that interest rates are much higher in NZ than elsewhere. Per capita costs equate to over $10,000 for average family of 4 over a decade: the least that can be said about this number is that isn’t the average Australian family of 4 lucky that they can have monetary policy that delivers similar outcomes to NZ and costs them $10000 less over a decade. Numbers this large suggest it is at least worth asking if indeed NZ has the best possible monetary policy

On the second question, – did NZ’s monetary policy help cope with idiosyncratic shocks – it is necessary to clearly identify the shocks. That is the other problem with using a CGE or DSGE model: the identification of time series macro models is always difficult. One needs incredible faith to believe most identification schemes – which is why time series models are mainly used for forecasting, not structural analysis. (Most economists in other fields (eg labour, development) don’t use these techniques precisely because they don’t believe the identification, and they spend an inordinate amount of time developing datasets/ techniques in which a shock is identified.) But in the last few years there have been some idiosyncratic shocks hitting NZ: two droughts, and the migration boom in 2001/3, for example. So it seems legitimate to ask: did monetary policy help NZ adjust to these shocks? I haven’t studied any of these cases in any depth at all, but as a first stab I would say “Monetary policy wasn’t much help.” Interest rates were raised as the droughts struck, monetary policy wasn’t appreciably tightened to help cope with the migration influx and the resultant housing boom (and there was a stage in 2003 when interest rates were cut before being rapidly increased in 2004). These episodes do need to be explored properly so the empirical question of whether an independent monetary policy actually helps a lot in practice can be answered.

On interest rates: who really knows why they are so high in NZ. It could be a foreign issue: while there is no shortage of foreigners wanting to lend money, they may be a shortage of foreigners wanting to lend in NZ dollars and we might be able to get cheaper loans in a different currency if we used one. Or it could be a domestic issue: the RBNZ clearly controls short term rates, it may simply have chosen to have had very high interest rates over the last 15 years in order to “achieve” its inflation and other (stabilisation) goals. I am not opposed to having moderate interest rates: one of the reasons I admire the RBA so much is precisely because they resisted the international trend of ultra low interest rates in the mid 2000s. But the question still remains: isn’t it unlucky that NZers can’t have a monetary policy that delivers low inflation and a stable economy without having interest rates much higher than elsewhere in the world (in particular Australia), because the current arrangements are very costly. But perhaps, as Dr Pangloss might have said, that is just bad luck; we do live in the best of all possible monetary worlds, and should count ourselves fortunate for having monetary independence, for without it things would have surely been much worse.

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By: Wine of Month Club http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/08/20/nzaussie-optimum-currency-area/#comment-21249 Sat, 22 Aug 2009 18:17:56 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=4302#comment-21249 I think we all like lower interest rates in the short term, until we see the other side of it which include high rates at any one point…..when the economy is at a standstill circa California 2008 it will be a different conversation!

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By: Bill Bennett http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/08/20/nzaussie-optimum-currency-area/#comment-21241 Fri, 21 Aug 2009 21:59:27 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=4302#comment-21241 For me “Can’t use monetary policy to compensate for region specific shocks” is the absolute killer for two reasons. First, New Zealand’s export economy is substantially different to Australia’s and works on different cycles. Second, the region specific shocks are something of a hot potato inside Australia with some states whinging about New South Wales economic dominance. If it’s a problem for Tasmania or Queensland, it’s going to be worse for NZ.

Having said that, I like the idea of paying Australian interest rates.

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By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/08/20/nzaussie-optimum-currency-area/#comment-21233 Fri, 21 Aug 2009 04:56:34 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=4302#comment-21233 @Miguel Sanchez

We can’t quite infer that lower rates would have implied looser monetary policy in NZ – because we would have had a stronger currency through the union.

I think the main question we have to ask is how our internal rate of exchange would change. If lower rates drove the housing market on further, and increased non-tradable price pressure, then I suspect that general outcomes would be worse.

However, I have a strong anti currency union bias which I am willing to admit because:

1) I believe exporters are strongly able to hedge against exchange rate risk
2) I believe the exchange rate does compare to some underlying fundamentals, and that these fundamentals are merely more volatile than we would like – and hence lower exchange rate volatility would imply higher price level volatility, something that has a higher welfare cost. [I just realised how much that logic makes me sound like a new classical economist 😛 ]

Even so, I am willing to be turned the other way – given that I recognise there is a trade-off in any currency union situation (hence why Auckland does not have its own currency).

For me it is a question we can only answer empirically.

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