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Comments on: Bank runs and TARP http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/08/26/bank-runs-and-tarp/ The Visible Hand in Economics Mon, 31 Aug 2009 04:12:43 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Best Charter Cable Televison, Broadband Connection and Digital Telephone Service | Business BroadBand http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/08/26/bank-runs-and-tarp/#comment-21339 Mon, 31 Aug 2009 04:12:43 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=4311#comment-21339 […] TVHE » Bank runs and TARP […]

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By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/08/26/bank-runs-and-tarp/#comment-21285 Wed, 26 Aug 2009 05:00:35 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=4311#comment-21285 @Paul Walker

Paul. Banks have always wanted to signal that they are high quality – even when they weren’t. As a result, the signal wasn’t credible.

Hence, in the event of a big shock to banking system confidence we can get an inefficient bank run. The TARP was designed to prevent this type of bank run, and as a result was made universal so as to prevent funds shifting from banks that were normally in good health but would have needed TARP funds temporarily (as opposed to banks that were just in straight trouble).

Now that the banking crisis has abated, they are letting the market use the TARP as a signal – as that way we can ensure that the worst banks still have to shut down, the medium banks will operate, and the best banks get rewarded. This isn’t a sign that government policy was wrong – it is a sign that policy was flexible and appropriate, a surprising result but a good one.

So with TARP they prevented bank failures, and then allowed the best banks to have a credible signal of quality – man it just sounds like a better and better policy by the day 😀

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By: Paul Walker http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/08/26/bank-runs-and-tarp/#comment-21284 Wed, 26 Aug 2009 04:44:32 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=4311#comment-21284 Banks have always had ways to signal their health. Why was it for many years banks always had such grandiose buildings? It wasn’t just because they liked the look of them. Most are bloody awful. It was a signal. TARP was designed to stop signalling. The government didn’t want banks to be able to signal. That is why they said all banks had to take the money and why they didn’t want banks to pay the money back. Even now the government doesn’t want the banks to say they didn’t take the money. They are still trying to prevent banks from signalling. The fact that banks are now using a system designed to stop signalling to signal is my point. The market has come up with a way to deal with asymmetric information by using a scheme created to enforce asymmetric information.

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By: rauparaha http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/08/26/bank-runs-and-tarp/#comment-21283 Wed, 26 Aug 2009 04:01:21 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=4311#comment-21283 @Paul Walker
I think our point is that TARP couldn’t stop signalling because the banks had no way to signal prior to TARP. The fact that they couldn’t signal meant that there could be a run on healthy banks, which posed a risk to the economy.

The implementation of TARP allowed for a separating equilibrium, which would have risked a run on banks that chose to take government money to prop up their balance sheets. Since banks would have risked destruction by initially taking the money, yet the money was needed to reinforce the banking system, it made sense to enforce a pooling equilibrium and prevent the use of TARP as a signal.

Now that the hysteria has died down there isn’t the same risk of a run on banks involved in TARP. That means that the government has been able to relax its position on using TARP as a signalling device and a separating equilibrium may be forming.

To suggest that TARP was implemented to prevent signalling misunderstands the counterfactual situation. Without TARP there was no credible signal of quality, which is why the banks needed the support in the first place.

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By: Paul Walker http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/08/26/bank-runs-and-tarp/#comment-21282 Wed, 26 Aug 2009 03:53:09 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=4311#comment-21282 TARP was set up in such a way as to prevent signalling. The government used it to stop banks from using whatever method they like to signal their financial health. The same issue arose when several big banks wanted to repay their loans. The government didn’t want them to do so because it would show who was able to, and thus healthy, and those who couldn’t. The whole point of the government intervention was to stop signalling.

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By: agnitio http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/08/26/bank-runs-and-tarp/#comment-21281 Wed, 26 Aug 2009 03:10:11 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=4311#comment-21281 indeed:)

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By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/08/26/bank-runs-and-tarp/#comment-21280 Wed, 26 Aug 2009 03:06:31 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=4311#comment-21280 @agnitio

Indeed, but the choice about whether to take the TARP will differ based on the health of the banks – allowing a separating equilibrium of the sort that we now seem to be observing!

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By: agnitio http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/08/26/bank-runs-and-tarp/#comment-21278 Wed, 26 Aug 2009 03:02:09 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=4311#comment-21278 @Paul Walker
“Talk is cheap” as they say.

Even the unhealthy banks have an incentive to say they are healthy. Without the TARP there is no seperating equilibrium since both “types” have the incentive to say the same thing.

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By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/08/26/bank-runs-and-tarp/#comment-21277 Wed, 26 Aug 2009 02:56:41 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=4311#comment-21277 The key point is that you can only have a credible signal if there is a separating equilibrium. Normally there isn’t, but the existence of a TARP created one.

And not only that, the government made money off it.

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