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Comments on: California knows how to ban stuff http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/11/20/california-knows-how-to-ban-stuff/ The Visible Hand in Economics Thu, 17 Dec 2009 06:55:46 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: John Kenpo http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/11/20/california-knows-how-to-ban-stuff/#comment-22314 Thu, 17 Dec 2009 06:55:46 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=4469#comment-22314 California is being stupid here. I have no idea why they would want to put such strict energy standards on TV’s. This is going to drive up prices and hurt small companies in California.

]]> By: dadiss http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/11/20/california-knows-how-to-ban-stuff/#comment-22067 Thu, 26 Nov 2009 20:19:39 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=4469#comment-22067 very interesting subject , and i really agree with what goonix said , in politics, it a question of appearance

]]> By: Calgary web http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/11/20/california-knows-how-to-ban-stuff/#comment-22051 Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:04:13 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=4469#comment-22051 A Ban can hurt small companies and individuals , so on the surface it looks good but some people still get hurt.not everything is as good as it seems

]]> By: MoneyBright http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/11/20/california-knows-how-to-ban-stuff/#comment-22026 Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:49:52 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=4469#comment-22026 Ha! I love the title to this post!

Aside from a title that made me chuckle, however, you make a good point in saying that motivating consumers not to do something is better than banning it altogether. Completely, completely agree.

Banning things at will is all just a little bit…. dictatorship.

]]> By: DerTester http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/11/20/california-knows-how-to-ban-stuff/#comment-21991 Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:04:30 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=4469#comment-21991 To politicians it is important to do something. No matter if it’s reasonable or not. Anything will do.

]]> By: goonix http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/11/20/california-knows-how-to-ban-stuff/#comment-21955 Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:13:56 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=4469#comment-21955 Sadly, appearance is everything in politics.

]]> By: rauparaha http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/11/20/california-knows-how-to-ban-stuff/#comment-21953 Fri, 20 Nov 2009 02:32:08 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=4469#comment-21953 @goonix
Yeah, I can see how it might be difficult to implement a ‘good’ lever, such as comprehensive emissions trading. It might be politically easier to resort to crude instruments like banning things in order to suppress energy demand. Or at least appear to be reducing energy demand in order to satisfy your greenie constituents 😛

]]> By: goonix http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/11/20/california-knows-how-to-ban-stuff/#comment-21952 Fri, 20 Nov 2009 02:25:15 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=4469#comment-21952 @rauparaha
The Commission might be concerned about a number of things. But the real issue is that, if you’re going to use levers to incentivise behavioural change, you should at least use ones that work. Or are you implying that they may not have had the ‘correct’ lever in their toolbox so resorted to the blunt hammer?

]]> By: rauparaha http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/11/20/california-knows-how-to-ban-stuff/#comment-21948 Fri, 20 Nov 2009 01:20:21 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=4469#comment-21948 Isn’t regulation like this really a second best solution when they can’t agree on how to solve the real externality? I presume that one of two things is happenening: Either the state government can’t pass legislation regulation emissions/resource management to protext the environment so they’re trying to manage demand by banning stuff. Or the government is concerned that the transition to a sustainable economy will take too long if they don’t force people’s behaviour to a new equilibrium rapidly.

]]> By: Briefcases http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2009/11/20/california-knows-how-to-ban-stuff/#comment-21943 Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:07:54 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=4469#comment-21943 This is a silly move on California’s part. In the state where materialism reins, why would they limit what luxuries people have? They need to face facts that they absolutely need to build more power plants. What do they expect to do as electric cars gain popularity creating even more electricity use?

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