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Comments on: Labour market improving rapidly. But still weak. http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2010/05/06/labour-market-improving-rapidly-but-still-weak/ The Visible Hand in Economics Wed, 12 May 2010 08:11:59 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Service Centre Canada for Youth opens for summer months :Canadian Bargain Outlet http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2010/05/06/labour-market-improving-rapidly-but-still-weak/#comment-25136 Wed, 12 May 2010 08:11:59 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=4919#comment-25136 […] TVHE » Labour market improving rapidly. But still weak. […]

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By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2010/05/06/labour-market-improving-rapidly-but-still-weak/#comment-24778 Thu, 06 May 2010 01:38:25 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=4919#comment-24778 @Kenny Hayslett

Except for the graph of underemployment? And the fact that the same conclusion (spare capacity but a more rapid recovery) holds for that stat to.

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By: Kenny Hayslett http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2010/05/06/labour-market-improving-rapidly-but-still-weak/#comment-24775 Thu, 06 May 2010 01:33:31 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=4919#comment-24775 This does not seem to take in account the underemployed

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By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2010/05/06/labour-market-improving-rapidly-but-still-weak/#comment-24767 Thu, 06 May 2010 01:08:46 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=4919#comment-24767 @Miguel Sanchez

Excellent points.

I’d that note I’d say that 6.0% still implies we have a lot of spare capacity – implying that there is still an “output gap” that stimulatory interest rates can help out with. Of course, this gap is now a lot smaller than we expected.

Interestingly, the RBNZ did expect the UR to fall quickly when it started falling, and may just see this as moving the shift forward – as a result this release might actually have very little direct impact on how far they think they have to move rates.

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By: Miguel Sanchez http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2010/05/06/labour-market-improving-rapidly-but-still-weak/#comment-24765 Thu, 06 May 2010 01:03:13 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=4919#comment-24765 Matt – two observations from an statistics nerd:

1. The September to December rise was indeed overstated – with the number of unemployed rising virtually in a straight line, the seasonal adjustment program had trouble distinguishing any seasonal variation, and therefore treated it all as ‘genuine’. Once the trend turned, there was some variation and the program was able to treat more of the rise as seasonal. That’s why December was revised from 7.3% to 7.1%.

2. March quarter won’t suffer from the same problem, since the trend has already turned. I’ve done a barrage of tests on the seasonal factors, and the 6.0% looks to be genuine. The 7.3% was not – as we now know – and with time it may even be revised below 7%.

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