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Comments on: More on AMI http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2011/04/08/more-on-ami/ The Visible Hand in Economics Sun, 24 Apr 2011 05:30:16 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Miguel Sanchez http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2011/04/08/more-on-ami/#comment-33378 Sun, 24 Apr 2011 05:30:16 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=5912#comment-33378

jh :At the moment I’m waiting and when I see the new prices I’ll think about changing, but otherwise I’ll stick with AMI (out of loyalty and a sense of doing the right thing).

So… you’re going to wait and see whether they continue to undercharge for risk before deciding whether to keep your business with them. Are you sure that “loyalty” is the motivation here?

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By: Dismal Soyanz http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2011/04/08/more-on-ami/#comment-33376 Sat, 23 Apr 2011 23:08:57 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=5912#comment-33376 @jh
A hidden fault doesn’t excuse the excessive exposure to Christchurch property that brought AMI to its knees. The mantra for any insurance company is diversification. In this respect AMI, as Generation Twit put it, #fail.

Yes AMI rely on your continued support, in much the same way as any bank relies on depositor confidence or even a Ponzi scheme relies on increasing numbers of (foolish) punters. The question you have to ask yourself is whether you actually have confidence that AMI have learnt from ChCh. If you believe so, then carry on with AMI – after all, the government may step in to bail them out again [Moral hazard – a game any NZ company can play]. If not, look elsewhere.

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By: jh http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2011/04/08/more-on-ami/#comment-33375 Sat, 23 Apr 2011 19:55:41 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=5912#comment-33375 So, just to add the thought occurred to me that AMI rely on my continued support.
We need to remember that Canterbury is on an alluvial plain and the earthquakes started off with a hidden (blind) fault.

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By: jh http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2011/04/08/more-on-ami/#comment-33373 Fri, 22 Apr 2011 21:00:27 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=5912#comment-33373 I had minimal damage to my house and haven’t made a claim. I have all my insurances with AMI and I was shocked (but not entirely surprised) when I heard they were in trouble. I pondered what I should do and thought “oh well’, I’ll just reinsure early with another company”. At the moment I’m waiting and when I see the new prices I’ll think about changing, but otherwise I’ll stick with AMI (out of loyalty and a sense of doing the right thing).

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By: more_ben http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2011/04/08/more-on-ami/#comment-33236 Fri, 08 Apr 2011 02:48:03 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=5912#comment-33236 Another point on this is the the government should expect to lose a grand total of nothing if intervention is necessary. However, if they are spending money to help provide “certainty for Christchurch” they would be better off … giving money to people in Christchurch, rather than bailing out a firm.

Here’s a theory: vote share is increasing with government spending, without limit, on anything remotely plausible. If correct, then English’s decision to present the worst possible scenario and going along with calling it a bailout makes sense: being seen to spend $1 billion more gets you more votes on election day come November, more than if you’d announced you will probably spend nothing.

I have no idea why this theory might be true, but I nevertheless suspect it is.

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By: Dismal Soyanz http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2011/04/08/more-on-ami/#comment-33235 Fri, 08 Apr 2011 00:13:43 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=5912#comment-33235 The bailout was political. If the insurer failed then the homeowner has no financial support to repay the mortgage. Mortgagors (and I assume this would primarily be banks would then be foreclosing on homeowners. This would be fairly unpalatable for the banks – partly because any value they could get from the ruined buildings would be low but also because of the residual amount owing having to be extracted from now-homeless Christchurch residents. Not a good look. Definitely a vote loser in an election year.

IMO, the Government should have killed AMI. Transfer its balance sheet to a special purpose entity set up for this alone. Liquidate all other assets (whether it be selling individual assets or portfolios) and fund the SPV to cover the ChCh mortgages. AMI has been run into the ground by the current management and its really hard to see what value they (and the AMI brand) actually have any more, despite Blamforth’s protestations.

How anyone could ever believe that AMI could be a going concern is beyond me. The management has shown an inability to manage risk and its balance sheet as a prudent insurer. That’s bad enough for any company, but for a business that is meant to live and breathe risk management, it borders on gross negligence.

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By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2011/04/08/more-on-ami/#comment-33226 Thu, 07 Apr 2011 21:13:52 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=5912#comment-33226 @Miguel Sanchez

I would also say they are insolvent, yar.

BUT, I wanted to make the case as broad as possible – so that if certain arguments are raised in favour of say the idea of a “bank run”, the assumptions behind that are a bit more transparent.

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By: Miguel Sanchez http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2011/04/08/more-on-ami/#comment-33224 Thu, 07 Apr 2011 21:10:56 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=5912#comment-33224 Not sure where you’re going with this Matt. An insurer facing claims of as much as double its capital is insolvent, no question about it.

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