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Comments on: NZ fact of the day http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2011/09/14/nz-fact-of-the-day/ The Visible Hand in Economics Thu, 15 Sep 2011 20:48:21 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2011/09/14/nz-fact-of-the-day/#comment-34199 Wed, 14 Sep 2011 18:10:18 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=6261#comment-34199 In reply to Eric Crampton.

In part.

We are comparing the median household here – so in both cases we have an employed household sitting dead in the middle of everyone.  The high unemployment rate would have some downward pressure on the wages, interest, and dividend/rental income this household receives – but the bias isn’t as strong as if we were to use averages and tear off the top of the income distribution.

Ultimately, once we are back to “normal” economic times the median household in the US should be substantially better off – the key thing I like to take out of this is just how relatively well New Zealand is doing at current times … and how weird it is that so many people want us to change the institutions that have served us so well during a massive global crisis.

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By: Eric Crampton http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2011/09/14/nz-fact-of-the-day/#comment-34198 Wed, 14 Sep 2011 10:37:30 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=6261#comment-34198 I bet you’d get different results if you compared two earner US vs NZ households, single earner US vs NZ households, and so on. Much of the difference will be driven by very high US unemployment rates and drops in labour force participation. I’d be very surprised if there weren’t still a wide gap among comparable working households.

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By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2011/09/14/nz-fact-of-the-day/#comment-34196 Wed, 14 Sep 2011 05:33:57 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=6261#comment-34196 In reply to Chris.

Definitely, you are completely right – the current exchange rate doesn’t reflect the true difference in the price of goods between the two economies, and so doesn’t give a fair reflection of the real income gap.

However, PPP estimates are pretty unreliable and are often based on a fairly antiquated “basket of goods”.  Furthermore, using a typical exchange rate makes the idea that “we are increasingly able to buy more goods on international markets relative to other countries” clearer.  As a result I’m pretty comfortable just using market exchange rates in the throw away bit at the end of the piece 😉

 

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By: Chris http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2011/09/14/nz-fact-of-the-day/#comment-34195 Wed, 14 Sep 2011 04:56:14 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=6261#comment-34195 Of course for median income comparisons you should be using PPP exchange rates rather than market exchange rates. The latest OECD PPP conversion factor for New Zealand (2010) is 0.66 – so on a PPP basis NZ median income is equivalent to around US$42,000.

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