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Comments on: Protectionism: What the …. http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2011/10/12/protectionism-what-the/ The Visible Hand in Economics Fri, 14 Oct 2011 05:27:23 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: James K http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2011/10/12/protectionism-what-the/#comment-34606 Fri, 14 Oct 2011 05:27:23 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=6347#comment-34606 In reply to Matt Nolan.

I’m just as unhappy as you are, I guess I’m just more jaded about it.  I stopped hoping the US or EU would be sensible about trade a years ago.

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By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2011/10/12/protectionism-what-the/#comment-34598 Fri, 14 Oct 2011 01:52:40 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=6347#comment-34598 In reply to JC.

Lets hope it doesn’t come to that

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By: JC http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2011/10/12/protectionism-what-the/#comment-34556 Wed, 12 Oct 2011 22:12:11 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=6347#comment-34556 “Mr Smoot.. meet Mr Hawley.”
Like the Europeans, the Democrat controlled Senate has run out of ideas, and all thats left is a gamble for political survival.
JC

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By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2011/10/12/protectionism-what-the/#comment-34554 Wed, 12 Oct 2011 21:15:24 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=6347#comment-34554 In reply to Phil Sage.

“It is a choice of rubbish protectionism or playing with inflation by printing money.”

That is not the choice at all.  The choice is protectionism now, and a higher chance of another global recession, or no protectionism now.

I don’t like China’s trade policy either – but trying to “fight a trade-war” instead of dealing with the real issues in the domestic economy is just straight bad policy.

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By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2011/10/12/protectionism-what-the/#comment-34553 Wed, 12 Oct 2011 21:12:54 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=6347#comment-34553 In reply to James K.

They do enjoy ignoring that issue – that is true. 

However, I’m very unhappy with the idea of protectionism

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By: Phil Sage http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2011/10/12/protectionism-what-the/#comment-34538 Wed, 12 Oct 2011 08:58:25 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=6347#comment-34538 Matt
I read recently (Economist I think) that China pays its exporters in newly printed Yuan and then sterilises that by immediately buying China treasury stock.
http://economistonline.muogao.com/2010/09/chinas-real-sin-is-not-currency-manipulation.html

It is a choice of rubbish protectionism or playing with inflation by printing money.  Of the two it is difficult to decide which is more dangerous.  At least the protectionism is up front and can be stopped easily.

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By: James K http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2011/10/12/protectionism-what-the/#comment-34519 Wed, 12 Oct 2011 04:32:39 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=6347#comment-34519

If you think that having China save excessively creates risks to your own economy (as that sort of subsidy actually sounds pretty welfare enhancing in a direct sense – so we need to think about risks), then deal with it directly – eg by taxing capital flows from that specific country.

 
But those capital flows are the Chinese government buying US Treasuries i.e. propping up the US government’s deficit spending, so they can’t exactly tax it, now can they?  And so the US government engages in unwise protectionism while blithely ignoring the fact they they are responsible for enabling the trade imbalance in the first place.

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