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Comments on: A society of Entrepreneurs? http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2012/02/08/a-society-of-entrepreneurs/ The Visible Hand in Economics Mon, 04 Jan 2016 03:18:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Widi Suningsih http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2012/02/08/a-society-of-entrepreneurs/#comment-43775 Mon, 04 Jan 2016 03:18:00 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=6661#comment-43775 This bird is very beautiful .. http://goo.gl/TWiiDU

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By: Quoth the Raven http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2012/02/08/a-society-of-entrepreneurs/#comment-36621 Sat, 11 Feb 2012 06:38:58 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=6661#comment-36621 In reply to Eric Crampton.

I would recommend Charles Stross’ novel Accelerando for an exploration of this. It is brilliant.

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By: Richard29 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2012/02/08/a-society-of-entrepreneurs/#comment-36613 Thu, 09 Feb 2012 19:01:14 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=6661#comment-36613 I like where you are going towards the end there is that under this kind of labour market a universal basic income makes more sense. Our targetted welfare system assumesfull time equivalent salaried employment as the goal. A self employed person getting “3 weeks on 2 weeks off” type volumes of work with little certainty of exactly when the next paycheck is coming would be more than happy to pay a higher marginal tax rate on their income earned and have certainty of a minimum income when they need it without the hassle of applying for it (stand down periods, interviews, abatement rates on income earned etc)

I would argue that another factor that you’ve not mentioned is that employers experience volatility in work volumes and competition mandates that they try to externalise that risk. The relative weakness of unions compared to 2-3 decades ago makes this more possible. The first examples that come to my head are Peter Jackson trying to break the acting unions (it’s hard to find a better example of a job that pays very well but provides very inconsistent volumes of work) and Ports of Auckland trying to break the wharfies unions and replace them with contractors who are only paid to show up when there is work to do. Another example would be Chorus trying to shift their lines repairers to independent contractors. None of these positions I would characterise as the kind of well off ‘professional freelancers’ and certainly not as entrepreneurs, in fact all of these groups voiced considerable opposition to their casualisation.

There are substantial benefits from companies in doing this, carrying a large workforce and assett base (the Chorus contractors own their own van and tools) incurs a lot of waste and underutilised resource. The glaring example of this kind of waste is POA having to pay an entire workforce for 6 hours of no work because they finish unloading a boat in 2 hours and have a contract that mandates 8 hour shifts. I think the model of employers adopting the risk of workload volatility and giving workers decent conditions and a reliable income is a good one – but the fact is that time has passed – our companies are competing directly with the likes of coastal China that has a flexible labour pool of around 300 million migrant workers who have very little in the way of labour rights.

Have you read Gareth Morgan and Susan Guthrie’s Big Kahuna? I’d be curious to hear your thoughts on their comprehensive capital tax proposal. Given this view of a future in which there are entrepreneurs, owners of capital and a swathe of people who are niether and who scrape by providing services to these two groups (the servant class?) what do you think of capital being taxed and expected to pay it’s way on a flat playing field with labour?

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By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2012/02/08/a-society-of-entrepreneurs/#comment-36589 Tue, 07 Feb 2012 21:34:30 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=6661#comment-36589 In reply to Eric Crampton.

Oww that sounds exiting.  Will do.

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By: Eric Crampton http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2012/02/08/a-society-of-entrepreneurs/#comment-36588 Tue, 07 Feb 2012 21:32:38 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=6661#comment-36588 Now go read Hanson on what happens post-Singularity….

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