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Comments on: The dangers of writing widely http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2012/07/23/the-dangers-of-writing-widely/ The Visible Hand in Economics Thu, 26 Jul 2012 03:21:29 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Kimble http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2012/07/23/the-dangers-of-writing-widely/#comment-39349 Thu, 26 Jul 2012 03:21:29 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=7243#comment-39349 In reply to jamesz.

Understanding doesn’t help; that’s a personal thing.

Knowledge can help, but isnt needed in itself. People must be prompted to seek knowledge, and at the moment they are simply assuming they dont have to. The awareness of lack of knowledge is what is important.

We are social creatures, and social position means a lot to us. Fear of humiliation is a better prompt than anything else.

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By: jamesz http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2012/07/23/the-dangers-of-writing-widely/#comment-39340 Thu, 26 Jul 2012 01:17:17 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=7243#comment-39340 In reply to Kimble.

Knowledge and understanding, as Dunning and Kruger’s work suggests.

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By: Kimble http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2012/07/23/the-dangers-of-writing-widely/#comment-39335 Thu, 26 Jul 2012 00:29:55 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=7243#comment-39335 Overcoming an individuals intransigence is a battle, but not the war. We want to change how people approach economics. You want them coming at economic questions with the same modesty they would have when considering a question of physics (or even when attempting to cook something for the first time!)

How better to promote humility than through humiliation?

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By: jamesz http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2012/07/23/the-dangers-of-writing-widely/#comment-39333 Thu, 26 Jul 2012 00:06:25 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=7243#comment-39333 In reply to Kimble.

Getting people to publicly admit they were wrong is difficult but that’s a leap beyond helping people to understand their ignorance. I’m not sure that offensive shaming is the best way to overcome people’s intransigence either, although clearly their are a wide range of opinions on the matter.

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By: Kimble http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2012/07/23/the-dangers-of-writing-widely/#comment-39277 Wed, 25 Jul 2012 00:57:13 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=7243#comment-39277 I disagree.

Call a spade a spade, and laughable ignorance a spade too.

The softly softy approach wont have as much impact as the point and laugh approach. How much education  will it take to get Mishra to admit he was wrong? How much would it take to have the people who read and agreed with his position to admit they were wrong?

Far more than they would be willing to engage in.

People dont KNOW that its possible they dont know as much about economics as they think they do. You will advance the cause more by simply making them aware of their possible ignorance as opposed to correcting the record.

I think the entire economics profession should go on the offensive. Make it very obvious where someone is talking crap. Let shame be their guide.

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By: jamesz http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2012/07/23/the-dangers-of-writing-widely/#comment-39204 Mon, 23 Jul 2012 04:49:08 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=7243#comment-39204 In reply to Matt Nolan.

Nobody said being a modern hero would be easy 😉

 

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By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2012/07/23/the-dangers-of-writing-widely/#comment-39203 Mon, 23 Jul 2012 04:43:24 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=7243#comment-39203 Although I agree wholeheartedly with your conclusion, I have to admit that it can get hard to try to discuss things with people who turn around and consistently disregard what you are saying in your own specialty field.

Some people do not want to challenge their own beliefs – they only want you to share theirs 😉

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