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Comments on: A problem with “advertising bans” http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2012/08/09/a-problem-with-advertising-bans/ The Visible Hand in Economics Thu, 09 Aug 2012 04:43:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: jamesz http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2012/08/09/a-problem-with-advertising-bans/#comment-39806 Thu, 09 Aug 2012 04:43:00 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=7387#comment-39806 http://www.stanford.edu/~kbagwell/Bagwell_Web/advertisingintrofv2.pdf

Useful introduction that outlines three ways advertising could be modelled: preference modification, signal of quality, advertising as a complement to consumption of the advertised good.

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By: jamesz http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2012/08/09/a-problem-with-advertising-bans/#comment-39805 Thu, 09 Aug 2012 04:41:00 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=7387#comment-39805 In reply to Eric Crampton.

Ah, sorry, I focussed way too much on the first paragraph of your comment.

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By: Eric Crampton http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2012/08/09/a-problem-with-advertising-bans/#comment-39804 Thu, 09 Aug 2012 04:20:00 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=7387#comment-39804 In reply to jamesz.

“Cancelling out” is what I’m suggesting by the signal jamming equilibrium….

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By: jamesz http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2012/08/09/a-problem-with-advertising-bans/#comment-39803 Thu, 09 Aug 2012 03:28:00 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=7387#comment-39803 In reply to Eric Crampton.

I don’t think so, although I guess the ads could ‘cancel out’ their respective effects upon preference rankings. Maybe an ad for a Subway sald could move it above a McDonalds salad, though.

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By: Eric Crampton http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2012/08/09/a-problem-with-advertising-bans/#comment-39801 Thu, 09 Aug 2012 01:40:00 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=7387#comment-39801 In reply to jamesz.

I’m pretty sure your model isn’t just going to need “Advertising can change preferences”. It’s going to need “Advertising ESPECIALLY changes our preferences towards things that are bad.” Cause otherwise, wouldn’t we just expect the idiot ad viewer to flip from “Oh, I love McDonalds” to “Oh, I love salad” if the next ad in the queue is for salad?

If most people (except the noble guys who set policy, presumably: Plato’s Golden Men who are our betters and whose benevolent rule we need) are blithering fools who’ll just do whatever the ads tell them, then we just expect more investment in advertising and we get a signal jamming equilibrium.

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By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2012/08/09/a-problem-with-advertising-bans/#comment-39799 Wed, 08 Aug 2012 23:53:00 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=7387#comment-39799 In reply to jamesz.

I certainly hope so – is this a question of how much conscious effort they put on when advertising is near?

Mmmm, I want food – if only McD’s had real vegetarian options :/

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By: jamesz http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2012/08/09/a-problem-with-advertising-bans/#comment-39798 Wed, 08 Aug 2012 23:41:00 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=7387#comment-39798 In reply to Matt Nolan.

More importantly, I think, advertising is likely to change the ranking of bundles and the optimal consumption bundle. Do people rationally account for the change in preferences as a consequence of consuming the advertising and choose advertising accordingly?

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By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2012/08/09/a-problem-with-advertising-bans/#comment-39797 Wed, 08 Aug 2012 22:33:00 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=7387#comment-39797 In reply to jamesz.

Surely it depends on how the advertising has changed the individuals relative ranking of goods.

If the adverts do so by increasing the subjective value associated with the product this is a good thing – if the adverts do so by misinforming or reducing the subjective value associated with its competitors then this is a bad thing.

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By: jamesz http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2012/08/09/a-problem-with-advertising-bans/#comment-39796 Wed, 08 Aug 2012 22:19:00 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=7387#comment-39796 If advertising modifies our preferences then how can we conclude that it is ‘good’? How does welfare analysis work with endogenous preferences? I’m not criticising you, I just haven’t read that literatrue at all.

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