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Comments on: No QE “free lunch” for NZ http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2012/10/08/no-qe-free-lunch-for-nz/ The Visible Hand in Economics Wed, 24 Oct 2012 07:03:46 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Independence and credibility: The crisis and central banks | The Dismal Science http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2012/10/08/no-qe-free-lunch-for-nz/#comment-40118 Wed, 24 Oct 2012 07:03:46 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=7633#comment-40118 […] and their operation kept more independent from the greasy hands of governments that want to use a stealth inflation tax – it doesn’t suggest that we now need to throw away independence […]

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By: Do we get the economic policy we deserve? | The Dismal Science http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2012/10/08/no-qe-free-lunch-for-nz/#comment-40115 Tue, 23 Oct 2012 00:14:31 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=7633#comment-40115 […] have in recent times commented on policy ideas coming from various politicians. Matt Nolan on QE, Eric Crampton on exchange rates, Seamus Hogan on local workersand me on the F&P takeover, […]

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By: Another inquiry? | The Dismal Science http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2012/10/08/no-qe-free-lunch-for-nz/#comment-40103 Mon, 15 Oct 2012 00:11:15 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=7633#comment-40103 […] that NZ has a high real exchange rate/high real interest rates (most recent related posts involved *,*).  A factor that is due to real economy savings/investment decisions – not monetary […]

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By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2012/10/08/no-qe-free-lunch-for-nz/#comment-40098 Thu, 11 Oct 2012 17:52:00 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=7633#comment-40098 In reply to Alistair Connor.

 The RBNZ sets a time path of interest rates – their current monetary policy settings are already taking the rebuild into account.

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By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2012/10/08/no-qe-free-lunch-for-nz/#comment-40097 Thu, 11 Oct 2012 17:51:00 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=7633#comment-40097 In reply to Alistair Connor.

 I don’t disagree regarding transitional effects from policy, and the fact that there is an allocative issue in the housing market.

But I’m not sure what you are proposing here – landlords are taxed on rental income, so is it an issue of capital gains you are talking about?

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By: Alistair Connor http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2012/10/08/no-qe-free-lunch-for-nz/#comment-40096 Thu, 11 Oct 2012 14:55:00 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=7633#comment-40096 In reply to Sdemler.

 Taxing landlords so that they no longer get a free lunch isn’t hard. What is hard is the deflation in house prices that follows, and the honest hardworking people who find themselves upside down on their mortgages. It has to be done though, because the ongoing housing bubble is a colossal misallocation of resources that skews the whole economy. But it won’t be done because it isn’t exactly a vote winner…

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By: Alistair Connor http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2012/10/08/no-qe-free-lunch-for-nz/#comment-40095 Thu, 11 Oct 2012 14:43:00 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=7633#comment-40095 In reply to Matt Nolan.

 OK, so we’ve established that rebuilding Christchurch will be inflationary… Given the RB’s brief, are we going to see them step in to tighten monetary policy when this happens?

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By: Alistair Connor http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2012/10/08/no-qe-free-lunch-for-nz/#comment-40093 Thu, 11 Oct 2012 09:05:00 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=7633#comment-40093 In reply to Matt Nolan.

 Indeed. The current model with an “independent central bank” is an ideological choice — and we’re way out on a limb with respect to modern central-banking practice internationally (inflation the only target, interest rate the only tool in the box). The Greens challenge this, yet in this discussion you persist in trying to discredit them on *technical* grounds, as if they were obliged to work within the ideological strait-jacket imposed in the Douglas era.

But at last, in your reply to Kominsens, you are acknowledging the real issues. In particular, that it’s a valid political choice to maintain nominal growth through moderate inflation (though actual growth is even better).

Let’s look at what the Greens are saying about the exchange rate :

“In the four years to June 2012, exports from manufacturing have fallen by 12.4%, or $1.7 billion.1 Output from manufacturing in GDP terms has reduced by 9.1%, or $2.8 billion.2 In the same period, nearly 40,000 manufacturing jobs have been lost, a 16.7% reduction in the manufacturing workforce.”

To me, this clearly implies that there is a *huge* output gap! If you, and the RB, claim the contrary, I assume the reasoning is something like “this lost industrial output is gone for good, because it’s not competitive at the current exchange rate. And the exchange rate is not within our brief, so we’ll ignore it”.

But since the Greens are claiming that the exchange rate is a fixable problem, then the output gap reappears … at a lower exchange rate.

So yeah, I don’t see how you can write off the Greens’ proposals without examining the benefits (and explaining the costs) of lowering the exchange rate. Which involves understanding why it’s so high.

I see that elsewhere you have posted an analysis which implies that the high exchange rate follows high resource prices, and accompanies (cause/effect?) a real-estate bubble. The Greens claim that it is also fuelled by a carry trade, driven by excessive interest rates (this should be easily quantifiable, at least).

The emphasis of the Green policy release is on lowering the exchange rate, for which they propose several policy instruments that go well beyond monetary policy (including tackling the persistent housing bubble). It would be interesting to analyse that in more detail.

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By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2012/10/08/no-qe-free-lunch-for-nz/#comment-40092 Thu, 11 Oct 2012 00:39:00 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=7633#comment-40092 In reply to Sdemler.

 We sort of need an idea about why things are happening, rather than just walking in and taking over the allocation ourselves 🙂

Tax and competition policy are good places for us to start

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By: An excellent primer on NGDP targeting | The Dismal Science http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2012/10/08/no-qe-free-lunch-for-nz/#comment-40090 Thu, 11 Oct 2012 00:37:28 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=7633#comment-40090 […] me is that we stick to a time consistent rule, instead of falling into the trap of thinking we can hide taxation through central bank […]

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