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Comments on: The currency “war” myth that won’t die http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2013/01/24/the-currency-war-myth-that-wont-die/ The Visible Hand in Economics Tue, 29 Jan 2013 20:26:43 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Menzie Chen on currency wars | The Dismal Science http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2013/01/24/the-currency-war-myth-that-wont-die/#comment-40383 Tue, 29 Jan 2013 20:26:43 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=8064#comment-40383 […] that the “currency war” is a negative thing in a world of insufficient demand (*,*,*,*,*).  But Menzie Chen from Econbrowser has the same view – and to be absolutely honest their […]

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By: Mark Carney points out the currency war myth | The Dismal Science http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2013/01/24/the-currency-war-myth-that-wont-die/#comment-40377 Mon, 28 Jan 2013 20:28:46 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=8064#comment-40377 […] people keep throwing out this currency war myth, even in NZ, but as we have discussed in a number of posts listed here it is simply a […]

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By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2013/01/24/the-currency-war-myth-that-wont-die/#comment-40365 Thu, 24 Jan 2013 02:06:00 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=8064#comment-40365 In reply to Blair.

Hi Blair,

We won’t really know what impact the tax reforms had until we have a bit more data – especially since we have a great big earthquake and financial crisis thrown in right in the middle of it! At this point it is probably pretty important for policy makers to ask if they still believe that the long run RER is to high – and if this is the case then why.

In terms of China, we need to ask why the Chinese RER is “low” to understand what is going on – ultimately we can easily make the arguement that their RER is low because Chinese household savings are so high rather than the other way around!

Remember, there is no significant security net over there, choices are severely limited, and they have had to deal with a sharp change in population demographics through the one child policy – as a result, there has been a lot more saving for retirement. In that sort of environment, private savings relative to investment go up, and the RER (and real interest rates) fall.

With people in China relatively more willing to save, and accepting a lower rate of return, then in a small open economy in NZ we do not need to save as much to fund investment – so we borrow at low interest rates to invest. This is all cool … unless there is some sort of misallocation of investment going on. That is why all these concerns fundamentally come back to thinking about structural problems onshore – rather than trying to explicitly lean against whatever is going on overseas.

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By: Blair http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2013/01/24/the-currency-war-myth-that-wont-die/#comment-40364 Thu, 24 Jan 2013 01:14:00 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=8064#comment-40364 Good post Matt. One reason I am bullish about global growth in 2014 is the “monetary superpower” impact of the Fed has allowed/forced other CBs to be more proactive.
I would like to see more discussion on here of the real imbalances. IIRC blog predicted the real imbalances in NZ would abate in light of the tax reforms around property etc that followed the stellar work of the SWG and TWG. I think the actual rebalancing has been less that might have been hoped, so perhaps the reforms didn’t go far enough.
I am also interested in the question of whether foreign central bank buying could actually be lowering domestic saving by depressing the cost of imports and overseas holidays. I understand that Chinese economists see the undervalued RMB as a plank of the high Chinese household saving rate.

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By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2013/01/24/the-currency-war-myth-that-wont-die/#comment-40363 Wed, 23 Jan 2013 20:46:00 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=8064#comment-40363 In reply to Paul Walker.

It is an obvious point for economists – but not non-economists. If there is one thing I’ve learnt overtime it is that the counterfactual economists have in mind, and the counterfactual that non-economists jump on are often very different … and neither side realises that as we argue past each other!

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By: Paul Walker http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2013/01/24/the-currency-war-myth-that-wont-die/#comment-40362 Wed, 23 Jan 2013 20:12:00 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=8064#comment-40362 “We know that the free market is always perfect and good and that policy can’t help.”

I would hope that no economist would ever say that. What they should say is that markets are imperfect but better than the alternative.

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