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Comments on: ‘Fake food’ and ’empty calories’: An assault on value? http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2013/12/02/fake-food-and-empty-calories-an-assault-on-value/ The Visible Hand in Economics Wed, 04 Dec 2013 00:14:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Eric Crampton http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2013/12/02/fake-food-and-empty-calories-an-assault-on-value/#comment-42539 Wed, 04 Dec 2013 00:14:00 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=10475#comment-42539 In reply to Matt Nolan.

…and that’s why there are few sausage sizzles that cater to either of our tastes.

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By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2013/12/02/fake-food-and-empty-calories-an-assault-on-value/#comment-42536 Tue, 03 Dec 2013 21:02:00 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=10475#comment-42536 In reply to Eric Crampton.

I’ve heard that comment a few times now. While I believe you, with regards to the others I’m not sure how many people are just saying it, and when push comes to shove they won’t do it. Talk is cheap, revealed preferences, and all that.

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By: Eric Crampton http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2013/12/02/fake-food-and-empty-calories-an-assault-on-value/#comment-42535 Tue, 03 Dec 2013 20:49:00 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=10475#comment-42535 In reply to Matt Nolan.

I wish more of them used decent sausages instead of the cheapie ones. I’d be much happier paying $5 for a good sausage and giving them $2 profit than paying $1 for a crap sausage and giving them $0.20 profit. But not enough people have my idiosyncratic preferences, alas.

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By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2013/12/02/fake-food-and-empty-calories-an-assault-on-value/#comment-42531 Tue, 03 Dec 2013 18:29:00 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=10475#comment-42531 In reply to Eric Crampton.

I have had a lot of people complain to me about that one … I just wish more sausage sizzles had vegetarian sausages, and that the ones that did didn’t cook them right on top of the meat ones.

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By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2013/12/02/fake-food-and-empty-calories-an-assault-on-value/#comment-42530 Tue, 03 Dec 2013 18:28:00 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=10475#comment-42530 In reply to Luis Apiolaza.

The disutility is an opportunity cost – it is just the forgone utility of future life. So the older you get, the more time you should spend defending things right …

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By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2013/12/02/fake-food-and-empty-calories-an-assault-on-value/#comment-42529 Tue, 03 Dec 2013 18:27:00 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=10475#comment-42529 In reply to Kimble.

It is a risk for all people who learn the logical framework of economics and then think about issues – this includes myself.

Many economists went into the discipline wanting to “save the world” or at least improve it – the desire to “find solutions” is something we all have, and that we all need to be careful with. I didn’t want to fuzzy this message by unfairly targeting individuals.

I’d also note that Gareth and Geoff (the other author on the health stuff) have both, repeatedly, said that one of the most important things is information. It would be hardly fair for me to turn around, ignore this, and then pick at things I may disagree with them on 🙂

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By: Eric Crampton http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2013/12/02/fake-food-and-empty-calories-an-assault-on-value/#comment-42524 Sun, 01 Dec 2013 22:46:00 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=10475#comment-42524 In reply to Kimble.

Kim il Soccer McNoCats [all credit to BK Drinkwater]

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By: Kimble http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2013/12/02/fake-food-and-empty-calories-an-assault-on-value/#comment-42523 Sun, 01 Dec 2013 22:21:00 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=10475#comment-42523 Eric is right. How can you construct a strawman for someone who is a parody of them self?

On a serious note, where can I purchase the TVHE t-shirt that says,

“Analysts that go too far in telling other people how to act have moved past acting in the public interest, and are starting to act more in terms of ego or an inflated sense of confidence about their own understanding.” ~ Matt Nolan not talking about Gareth Morgan

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By: Luis Apiolaza http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2013/12/02/fake-food-and-empty-calories-an-assault-on-value/#comment-42522 Sun, 01 Dec 2013 20:40:00 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=10475#comment-42522 A case for “I disapprove of your choices but I will defend to the death your right to make them”. Except for the death part, which involves to much disutility for my taste.

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By: Eric Crampton http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2013/12/02/fake-food-and-empty-calories-an-assault-on-value/#comment-42521 Sun, 01 Dec 2013 19:49:00 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=10475#comment-42521 I’m not sure one needs construct strawman versions of those who write that school sausage sizzles ought be viewed as enabling food addictions.

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