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Comments on: Discussion Tuesday http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2014/01/21/discussion-tuesday-3/ The Visible Hand in Economics Fri, 24 Jan 2014 12:10:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: jamesz http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2014/01/21/discussion-tuesday-3/#comment-42642 Fri, 24 Jan 2014 12:10:00 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=10653#comment-42642 In reply to Matt Nolan.

I appeal to economic authority at least five times every day!

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By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2014/01/21/discussion-tuesday-3/#comment-42639 Thu, 23 Jan 2014 19:41:00 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=10653#comment-42639 In reply to Kimble.

I’m not really focusing on climate change here – I’m looking into an analogy that compares it to economics.

It would appear more consistent to be either skeptical of both or supportive of both – but I often find that this is not the case!

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By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2014/01/21/discussion-tuesday-3/#comment-42638 Thu, 23 Jan 2014 19:40:00 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=10653#comment-42638 In reply to jamesz.

I like the analogy as it can be seen as cutting both ways as well – the key thing is that often those most dismissive of economics are the most supportive of climate science. Given the similarities in methodological issues (with the added complication in economics that we have forward looking agents), the fact people are willing to appeal to authority on climate but not economics is fascinating!

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By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2014/01/21/discussion-tuesday-3/#comment-42637 Thu, 23 Jan 2014 19:39:00 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=10653#comment-42637 In reply to Luc Hansen.

Global warming stuff is complicated, I just wanted to use the analogy 🙂

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By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2014/01/21/discussion-tuesday-3/#comment-42636 Thu, 23 Jan 2014 19:38:00 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=10653#comment-42636 In reply to MillAhab.

It looks to me that Skidelsky is attacking lazy economics – there is a definite temptation to equate labour supply and money to welfare, while ignoring the disutility of work, and the relation of policy to non-pecuniary matters. Actual normative/policy analysis shouldn’t – and often doesn’t – do this.

I hadn’t seen the OECD bit, do you have a link? Would love to have a look and give you my thoughts.

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By: Ridwan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2014/01/21/discussion-tuesday-3/#comment-42635 Thu, 23 Jan 2014 17:32:00 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=10653#comment-42635 I prefer the actual illustration. How significantly have to most of us get atmosphere adjust prediction? Definitely the actual traditional explanations are generally decent nevertheless can easily which means that the actual rates are generally high quality by any means?
http://buyrealinstagramlikes.com/

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By: Kimble http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2014/01/21/discussion-tuesday-3/#comment-42634 Thu, 23 Jan 2014 11:08:00 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=10653#comment-42634 … is equivalent to criticising climate change skepticism because the weather is bad.

^^^^^
I have seen much more of this than the other.

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By: jamesz http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2014/01/21/discussion-tuesday-3/#comment-42628 Tue, 21 Jan 2014 22:55:00 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=10653#comment-42628 I like the analogy. So how seriously should we take climate change predictions? No doubt the historical explanations are pretty good but does that mean the forecasts are any good at all?

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By: Luc Hansen http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2014/01/21/discussion-tuesday-3/#comment-42627 Tue, 21 Jan 2014 08:46:00 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=10653#comment-42627 Or because Al Gore is making a profit out of doing humans a favour?

http://pc.blogspot.co.nz/2014/01/councils-experts-among-last-still.html

Funny thing is, one could be forgiven for assuming that people of the ilk of Cresswell would admire Gore’s enterprise!

By the way, I only happened upon the above because Eric, amazingly, reposted the rubbish, here:

http://offsettingbehaviour.blogspot.co.nz/2014/01/flood-risk.html

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By: MillAhab http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2014/01/21/discussion-tuesday-3/#comment-42626 Mon, 20 Jan 2014 21:37:00 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=10653#comment-42626 Matt thought you would enjoy this from Robert Skidelsky:

http://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/robert-skidelsky-shows-what-is-at-stake-when-we-apply-economic-logic-to-our-personal-lives

Also with the topic of wages/income in the news alongside NZ’s supposed “Rock-Star-Economy” status I was hoping you (or anyone else out there Econ cyber-land) may be able to help with the following:

The OECD recently did some analysis on the % of income/wealth in each country that is attributable to labour and what is attributable to capital (I can’t find it online). Treasury also does these calculations I believe, and the split in NZ is something like (approx) 60% to capital and 40% to labour. Apparently only Mexico, Turkey and the Slovak republic have less going to labour than NZ.

Why is this? Is it because the base of our economy is primarily farming/Auckland property speculation etc.? Is it because we don’t tax gains on capital and as a result more activity flows to that side of the ledger? (Tax distortions, dead-weight-losses etc. etc.)

I would really love to know if you are able to share any thoughts! 🙂

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