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Comments on: Housing shortage: When is a shortage not a shortage http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2014/05/05/housing-shortage-when-is-a-shortage-not-a-shortage/ The Visible Hand in Economics Tue, 20 May 2014 08:37:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2014/05/05/housing-shortage-when-is-a-shortage-not-a-shortage/#comment-43199 Tue, 20 May 2014 08:37:00 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=11283#comment-43199 In reply to The other Neil.

I completely agree, also the relative yield had been pretty attractive in 11/12. However, even accounting for that many people were stating there was a “shortage” – I was just noting a hypothetical point about differing types of “values” for a housing service 😉

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By: The other Neil http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2014/05/05/housing-shortage-when-is-a-shortage-not-a-shortage/#comment-43198 Tue, 20 May 2014 02:59:00 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=11283#comment-43198 I think I may have made a similar reply on ‘Offsetting Behaviour’, but I think you need to consider the funding cost housing as well. The fall in interest rates from 2008/09 shifted the effective return (assuming that people refinanced at lower rates). So even at then current rentals the cash return increased. It is likely that this was partially capitalised into house prices, how much, I am not sure, but the leverage effect is quite large. You then also have to factor in expectations of future prices and whether people are motivated by current cash returns or future capital returns. These effects may have limited the scope for rental increases. I note that the weekly article on the queues for rental properties have stopped, but I am not sure whether the papers have moved on or it is just the new normal!

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By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2014/05/05/housing-shortage-when-is-a-shortage-not-a-shortage/#comment-43165 Thu, 15 May 2014 08:57:00 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=11283#comment-43165 In reply to Matthew W.

The lounge may not have appropriate lighting or ambiance for the types of Tupperware parties I host. This is the importance of getting it custom built!

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By: Matthew W http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2014/05/05/housing-shortage-when-is-a-shortage-not-a-shortage/#comment-43164 Thu, 15 May 2014 08:34:00 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=11283#comment-43164 I don’t fully understand this. Why can’t you rent a big lounge?

Or are you saying houses with big lounges are not the sort of houses that become rentals?

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By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2014/05/05/housing-shortage-when-is-a-shortage-not-a-shortage/#comment-43084 Tue, 06 May 2014 22:12:00 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=11283#comment-43084 In reply to jh.

Indeed, housing is a massive status good – and I think that can help support the idea of “multiple equilibirum” in house prices/price to rent ratios. A world with falling material scarcity will see status good prices bid up after all!

With more microdata becoming available, hopefully we can shed more light on these types of hypotheses!

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By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2014/05/05/housing-shortage-when-is-a-shortage-not-a-shortage/#comment-43083 Tue, 06 May 2014 22:11:00 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=11283#comment-43083 In reply to Sam Murray.

Is it a relative price issue or an income adequacy issue? That is a harder one. We know that each decile spends a similar amount on housing services (a fact that surprised me initially) – and so this points me towards income adequacy. But I’d need to think a bit more, within a broader framework, to make much sense of it.

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By: lovely hiba http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2014/05/05/housing-shortage-when-is-a-shortage-not-a-shortage/#comment-43077 Tue, 06 May 2014 09:43:00 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=11283#comment-43077 Great article but you can get it by paying some extra money.

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By: jh http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2014/05/05/housing-shortage-when-is-a-shortage-not-a-shortage/#comment-43076 Tue, 06 May 2014 02:32:00 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=11283#comment-43076 There is also the matter of where you live. Have you seen Dog Patrol? Would you feel safe at night? Would you feel safe walking to the dairy?

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By: Sam Murray http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2014/05/05/housing-shortage-when-is-a-shortage-not-a-shortage/#comment-43071 Mon, 05 May 2014 09:06:00 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=11283#comment-43071 Great post, here is some more food for thought.

In March 2013, 42.5% of renters either received the accommodation supplement or social housing assistance. Even with the low growth rate of rent, a significant number of people still need state assistance to pay rent.

All up, including rest home subsidies, the government spends around $3.1 billion a year on housing assistance.

As well the Tax Working Group estimated in 2008 that the rental sector as a whole runs at a operating loss.

Without capital gains, and the previous favourable tax treatment, total rent appears too low. Yet even at this relatively low rate of rent, large numbers of people struggle to afford rent without assistance.

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By: Housing shortage: When is a shortage not a shortage http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2014/05/05/housing-shortage-when-is-a-shortage-not-a-shortage/#comment-43069 Mon, 05 May 2014 01:01:54 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=11283#comment-43069 […] By Matt Nolan […]

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