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Comments on: ACT’s alternative budget http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2014/05/10/acts-alternative-budget/ The Visible Hand in Economics Sun, 01 Jun 2014 22:15:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2014/05/10/acts-alternative-budget/#comment-43260 Sun, 01 Jun 2014 22:15:00 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=11358#comment-43260 In reply to JH.

Hi,

My impression is that they have confused estimated changes in the level of economic activity and growth in economic activity.

A change in the structure of the tax system may well lead to more people trading, or trading in more efficient ways. For a period of time this would boost the growth rate as the impact of the change flows through the economy. But in the long-run, the growth in the “frontier” of the economy is unlikely to be as heavily influenced by such policies – this has more to do with growth in population, and the rate of technological progress. This is what makes their comments pretty much ridiculous.

Even if I was to be charitable, and state that they didn’t mean the long-term, they are implying that our productivity/income difference with a country like Australia is virtually all down to different tax policies and the RMA. This ignores the literature that discusses our distance to market, small scale, and the fact our GDP is measured a tad differently to Aussie. As a result, even the charitable reading leaves me feeling cold.

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By: JH http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2014/05/10/acts-alternative-budget/#comment-43259 Sun, 01 Jun 2014 18:43:00 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=11358#comment-43259 In reply to Matt Nolan.

Hi Matt – I was wondering if you could elaborate a bit on your criticism of the 5% figure for us laypeople. Is the problem that the results from the academic literature are more ambiguous than ACT have implied or that they have applied the findings incorrectly? Is it actually possible to accurately estimate the effects of the policies they advocate (and if so what would be your guess at the overall impact of these policies?) Thanks

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By: National’s not alternative budget: Budget 2014 | The Dismal Science http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2014/05/10/acts-alternative-budget/#comment-43184 Sun, 18 May 2014 21:25:58 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=11358#comment-43184 […] the three major parties are determined to have a government of the current size.  In that case a strong ACT party would be a good foil to express your preference, if they only discussed policies sensibly […]

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By: Budget 2014 | The Dismal Science http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2014/05/10/acts-alternative-budget/#comment-43172 Thu, 15 May 2014 22:15:57 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=11358#comment-43172 […] original post.)Matt has covered off alternative-budget, election-manifesto announcements from ACT, Labour, and the Greens. It would say that ACT fails on Point 3, and Labour on Point 2. I […]

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By: National’s not alternative budget: Budget 2014 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2014/05/10/acts-alternative-budget/#comment-43162 Thu, 15 May 2014 07:39:55 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=11358#comment-43162 […] the three major parties are determined to have a government of the current size. In that case a strong ACT party would be a good foil to express your preference, if they only discussed policies sensibly … Source: National’s […]

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By: Budget day warmup | The Dismal Science http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2014/05/10/acts-alternative-budget/#comment-43157 Thu, 15 May 2014 00:03:36 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=11358#comment-43157 […]  Just saw an article by the NBR about my post on the ACT Budget.  Was good fun, I’m happy with the quotes they took – as I do want to point out that […]

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By: Budget day warmup | The Dismal Science http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2014/05/10/acts-alternative-budget/#comment-43156 Thu, 15 May 2014 00:03:32 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=11358#comment-43156 […]  Just saw an article by the NBR about my post on the ACT Budget.  Was good fun, I’m happy with the quotes they took – as I do want to point out that […]

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By: Matt Nolan http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2014/05/10/acts-alternative-budget/#comment-43148 Wed, 14 May 2014 05:23:00 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=11358#comment-43148 In reply to Jim Rose.

On distance I’m not sure Australia is the same distance from its value chain per se. Their export mix is fairly different to ours after all. However, it is an issue for them – and quite why they are one of the richest countries in the world alludes me, this is a very good question to ask.

WIth regards to the income and productivity gaps – I have a relatively unpopular view. Namely that there are measurement problems. It is hard to look at the fact that the series dropped like a stone in 1984-96 (relative to more gradual declines prior and post this small period), when there was a massive change in both labour market and GDP measurement, and not think that there is something fishy going on.

http://www.productivity.govt.nz/sites/default/files/NZPC-NZ-Australia-productivity-working-paper-2013-02.pdf

Descriptively though, the above piece shows that there are a variety of drivers of what has happened and that the relative productivity gap with Australia has been expanding relatively gradually but persistently. What this means is a hard question. Wrt to taxation, the producitivity commission report did indicate to me that the high level of capital taxation is a contributor – but in a world of increasing specialisation, lack of scale may well come with an increasing penalty!

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By: Jim Rose http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2014/05/10/acts-alternative-budget/#comment-43147 Wed, 14 May 2014 04:37:00 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=11358#comment-43147 In reply to Matt Nolan.

On distance, Australia and NZ suffer equally from the burden of distance: 10% of GDP.

Auckland is closer to LA than is Sydney or Melbourne. How do the Australians put bread in the shops I do not know? So far away from LA; huge distances between their cities.

Distance explains none of the Trans-Tasman income gap, nor why that gap suddenly emerged between 1974 and 1992, nor why NZ TFP dropped by 30% between 1974 and 1980, nor why the Trans-Tasman income gap stopped widening after 1992.

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By: Labour’s alternative budget | The Dismal Science http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2014/05/10/acts-alternative-budget/#comment-43146 Wed, 14 May 2014 01:03:06 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=11358#comment-43146 […] there is one bit that gets on my wick a bit, it did for the ACT release as well – this rubbish about targeting an “unemployment rate”.  The government […]

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