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Comments on: Discussion Tuesday http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2014/06/24/discussion-tuesday-24/ The Visible Hand in Economics Tue, 24 Jun 2014 13:08:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: JC http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2014/06/24/discussion-tuesday-24/#comment-43418 Tue, 24 Jun 2014 13:08:00 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=11388#comment-43418 How long is a piece of string?

There’s no set purpose for forming a Govt beyond that which seems advantageous to a society at any given time and circumstances. It might be formed by religious authorities for their own purposes, for national defence, law and order or to set up and police commercial activities.

Stuff like taxes and redistribution are simply complexities that tend to be added to keep the thing going past the original basic purposes for which it was set up and often these complexities improve the well being of the society.. human ambition and greed are not necessarily bad reasons for perpetuating a government.. in fact altruism may be the very worst reason for keeping government going.

JC

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By: Bill Bennett http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2014/06/24/discussion-tuesday-24/#comment-43417 Tue, 24 Jun 2014 00:20:00 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=11388#comment-43417 Where does the quote come from?

To answer the question properly some context is needed, such as, ‘what precisely does the questioner mean by redistribution?’

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By: Kimble http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2014/06/24/discussion-tuesday-24/#comment-43416 Mon, 23 Jun 2014 23:56:00 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=11388#comment-43416 Is this where you tell us that that is a quote from Mein Kampf or Das Capital?

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By: Kimble http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2014/06/24/discussion-tuesday-24/#comment-43415 Mon, 23 Jun 2014 23:55:00 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=11388#comment-43415 In reply to Peter Cresswell.

Any government action is necessarily going to be redistributionative.

Any sort of social safety net is going to be the same.

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By: Blair http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2014/06/24/discussion-tuesday-24/#comment-43414 Mon, 23 Jun 2014 22:17:00 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=11388#comment-43414 A big limitation on the power of redistribution, in my experience, is that the most advantaged elements of society will end up benefiting because they lobby and tweak the rules through political coverage, control of select committees etc. Case in point: NZ Super. It protects some pensioners who would otherwise be in poverty, at the cost of a huge transfer to the wealthiest demographic in society.

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By: Blair http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2014/06/24/discussion-tuesday-24/#comment-43413 Mon, 23 Jun 2014 22:14:00 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=11388#comment-43413 I support free basic health care and primary & secondary education for the poor, paid from general taxation. That seems like a pretty good level of redistribution right there. GMIs are a topic I am just getting interested in. I never thought the numbers would work for a GMI (i.e. would require very high taxes on everything to pay for it) but am reading The Big Kahuna at the moment to see what numbers Guthrie and Morgan get.

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By: Peter Cresswell http://www.tvhe.co.nz/2014/06/24/discussion-tuesday-24/#comment-43412 Mon, 23 Jun 2014 21:05:00 +0000 http://www.tvhe.co.nz/?p=11388#comment-43412 This assumes government’s role is redistribution.

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