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Quick thought …

June 26th, 2009 Matt Nolan

Strict neo-classical economists need to realise that there ARE systematic deviations from tightly defined rationality and as economists we should try to understand these deviations (although preferably deviations can still be incorporated into a more general version of our framework).

Behavioural economists should realise that these deviations are far less common than they believe, and even if they do exist they aren’t necessarily policy relevant.

Example for both sides, the conjunction fallacy.

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  1. goonix
    June 26th, 2009 at 12:58 | #1

    You tell em Matt.

  2. June 26th, 2009 at 13:58 | #2

    Go the whopping generalisations. Gotta love ‘em :)

  3. June 26th, 2009 at 14:06 | #3

    @rauparaha

    If I don’t stereotype things how am I supposed to make wild general statements about what they should do.

    I was just sitting around reading things when I noticed there were two extreme responses to the above paper being thrown around:

    1) Behavioural economics is stupid,
    2) Neo-classical economics is stupid.

    I thought if they could attack stereotypes then the best thing for me to do would be to attack the stereotypes back simultaneously.

    Personally I think that there is only one discipline here, choice theory. Instead of cleanly recognising this we have individuals are just using these stereotypes to cloak their own value judgments regarding choice. I hoped that by attacking both sides I could convince myself of this – and I did.

  4. goonix
    June 26th, 2009 at 16:57 | #4

    If I was interpreting rauparaha’s comment I would say he was criticising the extreme positions taken by those on either side (i.e. a whopping generalisation that everyone is rational or everyone is not rational).

    I could be wrong however!

  5. June 26th, 2009 at 17:01 | #5

    @goonix

    Definitely, but he was also inherently criticising me propogating those extreme positions – as I might be implying that they have more relevance then they deserve. As a result, I felt I should explain why I did that.

    I avoided putting forward the main reason why – which was that I had no time to do a substantive post, but wanted to hit something down to put down my “feelings” associated with recent discussions on behaviour economics.

  6. June 29th, 2009 at 09:40 | #6

    If only all my comments were so ambiguous and cryptics ;)

  7. June 29th, 2009 at 14:09 | #7

    @rauparaha

    You are an economist – all your comments should be ambiguous and cryptic :)

    We are the fortune tellers of our time my friend ;)

  8. Staf.
    June 29th, 2009 at 16:16 | #8

    I do not see how both sides are examples of the conjuction fallacy.

  9. June 29th, 2009 at 16:26 | #9

    @Staf.

    Well neither side IS an example of the conjunction fallacy – but in that post there are lesson for adherents of either extreme position.

    The conjunction fallacy does exist – something that should hit the strictest adherents of traditional neo-classical logic.

    But the private institutional setting and elements of standard decision making account for a lot of what goes on when the fallacy is observed. Namely, once there is actually a cost to making a decision our agents become closer to the “standard rational” view. This implies that any policy based on a strict belief that behavioural errors are being made would tend to overestimate the degree of error – and as a result will “over-regulate”.

    As a result, the conjunction fallacy provides us with a case which illustrates that the most extreme versions of the neo-classical economist and the behavioural economist are inappropriate. And as a result, it shows us that it is appropriate to try and keep both sides in mind, and find a suitable middle ground.

  10. July 9th, 2009 at 00:03 | #10

    hmmm….probably…you must tell them about your thinking

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